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What happens when one side refuses to negotiate?

Pick up you ball and run home? Like the Iowa debate?

That shows real leadership, alright.

So true.

dave

Nice.

dave

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Does NH and Trump's 16 point lead in SC answer your question?

Not really.

But his behavior is telling. As is that of those that lose their sanity and credibility defending him.

That is something that needed to be done.The Republican party is no longer the party of Conservatism.It is now the Party of Selfservatishm.They do not care what the Electorate wants,only their selfish ,greedy wants.Screw em!!!

In your personal lives, do y'all have ANY principles that are non-negotiable? How about your business life?

It's a rhetorical question, because, of course you do.

The problem is not negotiation. The problem is your stance at the beginning of the negotiation. Any deal you think you MUST make is not gonna be the best deal for you.

This.

We have about "compromised" our 2ns amendment right away.

Thanks to those willing to do so with an anti-gun lobby that never stops chipping away at the block.

Trump doesn't have to negotiate or compromise with democrats, he has to negotiate with GOP lead congress that have folded and nonnegotiated us into soon to be 21 trillion and well over 100% GNP debt. Damn bastards!

Unless someone has an extra 20 trillion laying around maybe someone should 'negotiate' our debtors like China into more favorable terms from strength.

Private sector produces money and public sector spends. We need a different set of smarts or we are over, we're probably all ready over but one have one last gasp.

A F'n in your face, up your ass, no holds barred negotiater, who'll walk away with the prize when the other side got handled after saying, thanks for your impute, let's do lunch, you're a great friend.

Kent

Way too deep a thought for some here.

Not really all that deep Bob...it's just that some take trump at his word & his current one liners & others look at the ways he's dealt with democrats in the past...

The main thing you have to know about him is that the status-quo establishment of both parties fears and hates him. That's buku credibility.

Ross Perot predicted that and built his campaign around it.

And I voted for him. That was the last chance we had to turn this country back right.

Sneaky way to start a third party.

i think thats accurate. 90% of america is so fuggen sick of the PC crap that when someone comes along with the mojo to tell it like it is, and PC be damned, it feels right. i would be more of a fan if he just didn't appear as such a pandering, arrogant loudmouth. lets hope that if he wins, he surrounds himself with good people who know how to get schit done in that cesspole inside the beltway. i have my doubts.

September 30, 2015

Yesterday the leading presidential candidate in the Land of the Free released his tax plan in the Wall Street Journal.
And the Donald certainly did not disappoint his supporters.
His tax plan is bold, aiming to drastically simplify the tax code and reduce the number of individual income tax brackets down to four.
He aims to cut taxes for all individuals who earn less than $25,000 dollars, and reduce the top marginal rate to 25% for those earning more than $150,000.
The corporate tax rate would also be cut to 15%, down from a marginal rate as high as 38%.
The Internet is now abuzz with economists analyzing Mr. Trump’s proposals, assessing the economic impact and making grandiose calculations on whether or not they would be “revenue neutral”.
Criticism already abounds with many saying that his tax plan would vanquish overall tax revenue by many trillions of dollars, leaving the Land of the Free in an even deeper financial hole.
These arguments and discussions are entirely misplaced.
According to government data that I retrieved this morning from whitehouse.gov, since World War II, tax revenue as a percentage of GDP has averaged 17.2%, with very minimal deviation.
Over that period, tax rates have been all over the place.
The top marginal tax rate has been as low as 28% in the 1980s and as high as 94% right at the end of WWII.
Meanwhile, over the course of US history, the top corporate tax rate has been as low as 1% and as high as 53%.
And yet in all this time, despite enormous variations in tax rates, overall tax revenue as a percentage of GDP has barely budged.
If you think about the economy as a giant pie, this means that the government’s slice of that pie is almost invariably between 17% and 18%, regardless of how high or how low they set tax rates.
So any discussion about whether Mr. Trump’s proposal will affect overall tax revenue is completely pointless.
Because seven decades of historical data show that his tax proposal won’t affect the government’s piece of the pie at all.
You’d think that with such incontrovertible historical data, the conversation would turn to the obvious question: how does one make the pie bigger?
Looking back at the data, slashing tax rates can make a big difference.
In 1988 when the US government restructured its tax code, they eliminated several tax brackets and cut both corporate and individual tax rates.
Yet real GDP growth doubled.
Human nature is a funny thing. We all tend to work a little harder if we know there’s a brighter light at the end of the tunnel. So slashing taxes is a nice start.
But there are much larger elements in that economic growth recipe.
It’s hard to make a bigger pie when you’ve got a national debt of $19 trillion; when you spend almost as much money on interest than on ‘defense’; and when you blow nearly the entirety of your tax revenue just on interest and mandatory entitlement programs like Social Security.
It’s harder still to create a bigger pie when the volume of laws, codes, rules, and regulations is enough to fill entire football stadiums.
US regulations have made its entire population guilty of crimes they’ve never heard of, often for the most innocent and innocuous activities.
Operating lemonade stands without a permit, collecting rainwater, failing to file a government survey are just a few activities now treated as criminal conspiracies.
And yet the government continues to publish upwards of a 1,000 pages PER DAY of new rules, regulations, and other proposals.
This isn’t rocket science.
If you look at places that have been patently successful in growing their economies from nothing, they’ve done it by cutting taxes, abstaining from regulation, and leaving people alone to work hard and become successful.
Singapore and Hong Kong are two examples.
They have almost no resources to speak of: no vast deposits of oil and gas, no huge tracts of land and fertile agricultural property like America has.
In fact, Singapore even has to import fresh water from Malaysia.
Yet they’re two of the wealthiest places in the world thanks to low taxes, minimal regulations, zero net government debt-- all things that the United States was once known for.
Until tomorrow,

Simon Black
Founder, SovereignMan.com

Trump has said he can negotiate or compromise with democrats...Trump:"Hey, look, I think I'll be able to get along well with Chuck Schumer. I was always very good with Schumer. I was close to Schumer in many ways."

The problem is that republicans want to "negotiate" the conservatives out of the race before they get to run against a Democrat. It's lost the last two elections for us.

Union or no? If yeah, the post is ironic. If no, nice work to you and yours.

Good for you Shod, there is a very real distinction between schooled and learned. Schooled only guarantees that you sat for a long time.

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