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Ds are giving away tax dollars to foreign countries (IRAN!), illegals (welfare, amnesty, etc.), kiss more minority ass than imaginable (pay any attention at all), support welfare to a degree that even saying that Rs would or do is laughable... not to mention attacking the 2A, imposing more onerous regulations on industries for job creation, increasing taxes across the board, increasing fuel taxes and tariffs, restricting mineral and energy exploration domestically, and a host of other "programs" directly opposed to the interests of unions and members... and somehow the unions justify voting for that? Please explain how.

No its the truth. So much so that I have had many threaten me, and make veiled threats against my family, in order to do whatever they can to silence folks like me from speaking out.

It's a Trillion dollar debacle.

So, it all comes down to them being guaranteed a UNION job, even if there are no jobs around at all, and none being created. They'd prefer no job at all, and no chance at one, to having to get a job without a union.

JFC...

Basically,
there is a lot of "funded jobs",schools ,bridges, etc..
That go to union firms,lobbists are backed by the unions

I've seen many a man let his family suffer waiting for the next union job to come available.

In other words, corruption, kickbacks, and organized crime?

Even though there would be more jobs and more opportunities for work without the obstructionism of the Ds, the unions would rather have LESS work and LESS opportunity, so long as they are the only ones that can benefit and do so through criminal activities.

Well, it's that a wonderfully "American" way of looking at things... I guess twenty pieces of silver can buy just about anything.

I'm sure you have (no insult). That's just ridiculous, and it says a lot about how we ended up in this sorry ass state of affairs the nation is currently in.

EGG-ZAK-LEE,
it's not so much that they are not labor friendly,it's that they are non-union labor friendly.

No amount of "economics" beats having the "fix in".

An interesting side note: WV legislature recently passed a law making it a right to work state. State dems/unions are screaming bloody murder.

I know of many union members, some, family, some, friends that vote D and R in local elections but R in the big ones.

The real issue is not so much the membership, as individuals, voting D all of the time but more so the money part whereby their dues are used by the union leadership goons that funnel those earned funds to the DNC.

I do not know a single Liberal union member (rank and file, hourly types). I am speaking of the building trades groups. ymmv.

Curious, should good, solid Republican voting, anti-labor union folks also avoid buying stock in any companies represented by labor unions and sell off any they may already own, regardless how well it has been performing for them?

That company may not have had a choice about it being union or not.

Companies are not represented by unions. They are represented by executives who have to deal with labor unions, and those executives are charged with making profits for the shareholders.

Im union because it makes me and my family more money, like 25% more at least. Right to work legislation doesn't do [bleep] for workers, besides lower wages as a whole all around, it sure as hell doesn't make more jobs. They aren't perfect by any means, but its better than having zero rights as an employee. I work as much or as little as I want to, so does everyone else that is halfway decent.

So far California Professional Firefighters are not endorsing anyone for President. They may get in for the general but right now I'm glad to see it.

If you think about it, Unions are nothing more than socialism.

My father-in-law spent his whole life as a union plumber. He's a real conservative thinking guy, but always voted D no matter what because the union told him to. It's almost like they're being an obedient child because they took such good care of him with health insurance, pension, and a high pay rate. They constantly hammered them with propaganda. I could never figure out why he didn't just think for himself.

Now that he's been retired for 20 years and away from the propaganda, he's been thinking more rationally. I couldn't believe it when he told me how much he hated Obama.

From what I could pull up it looks like 6.7% of the private sector workforce was union in 2015. That was 6.7% of people who work for a living. PAC's are no longer mandatory so many do not give dues to be used for political purposes. Working people are not who we need to be worried about, especially this small group. They pay taxes, have health etc. The "Cadillac tax" on company provided health care will cost the dems millions of these votes when it kicks in. No matter what anybody wants to use for propaganda very few if any of the Union members I know blindly vote for anyone. Most are middle class, have investments and like anybody else who goes to work regularly are tired of seeing their taxes take care of those who dont.