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Originally Posted by Bobmar
Ronnie Van Zant wrote and sang that song. Suggesting someone else did it better is laughable! That's like saying someone else painted a better Mona Lisa than da Vinci, or wrote a better Gettysburg Address than Lincoln. That song was his and anything else is poor replica.


There are occasionally covers that upstage the original works. Johnny Cash completely owns the NIN song Hurt after he covered it.

As to Outshine's cover of Simple Man, whether or not it's better is personal preference. They certainly did justice to the song.


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I think a lot of people miss the point. The original work, be it a song, a painting, whatever, sets the standard. It came from the artist's heart, mind and talent at the time they created it. Another artist can come along and attempt to put their mark on it, but as I said previously, it's a replica.


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While a musician covering another artist's work cannot claim the inspiration and creativity of the original work, they can still produce a very worthwhile version of the song that pays respect to the original artist and can allow the new artist to express their interpretation of the work.

To say only the original has value would mean that it would never be worth watching a singer perform live, as they are just performing a replica of their original song, or as is often the case, a slight variance of the original.


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Originally Posted by OutlawPatriot
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Shinedown does a better job...

Yeah, I like that version too.



Not bad. Not the original, which I still prefer, but not bad.


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I wouldn't argue with that Mr Lott, but I have to admit it's always annoyed me at a concert, when a hit song, the one you came to hear, gets changed by the artist. Oh well...it's their song. They can sing it however they want. My point all along in this conversation was not meant to suggest that someone else couldn't do a good job of covering an original.

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Part of the problem is producers can prompt bands to make studio versions of a song in such a way that there is no way the band can perform it live.

That said on the flip side I've seen live versions of songs that upstaged the studio versions.

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Shinedown botches the song. "All that want for you my son".... Shinedown mumbles and squawks out "all that i want from"

Fuggin idiots

It makes a difference if youre an unforgiving purist. The only reason they got to cover the joint was because the guitarist from shinedown was shacking up with Melody VZ.

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I don't know if it was the venue, the night, or Shinedown is really a bunch of talentless hacks who can't get by without the studio's help. But I saw them live right after they released their version of Simple Man, and they were absolutely 100 percent atrocious. If they hadn't been the opening act I would have left after the second "song". And I was looking forward to seeing them after hearing them get lots of airplay on the radio at the time.

BTW Van Halen was Okay as the main event, not the best show ever but pretty good so I don't think the acoustics were that bad in there

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VanHalen kicked azz when I saw them in 87 or 88. But from what i've seen on recent youtube clips, I would not want to see them live now.

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That kid's got quite the unique voice and persona. I like his cover.......however as mentioned by Slumlord, from a purist standpoint, he didn't do so good on replicating the lyrics.

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Of course not, now I'm glad I posted it.


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Originally Posted by 458 Lott
While a musician covering another artist's work cannot claim the inspiration and creativity of the original work, they can still produce a very worthwhile version of the song that pays respect to the original artist and can allow the new artist to express their interpretation of the work.

To say only the original has value would mean that it would never be worth watching a singer perform live, as they are just performing a replica of their original song, or as is often the case, a slight variance of the original.



"can allow the new artist to express their interpretation of the work."

As a Professional Musician who used to make a living re-performing hundreds of works by others "interpretations" just rub me the wrong way. A true Musician always respects the original work and Artist by practicing hundreds of hours on a piece in effort to reproduce it as "Exact" as possible to show respect for the original.

Self interpretation and a change of "Flavor" are considered disrespectful to the original Artists creativity and talent. You want the listener to be able to close their eyes and have shivers go down their spine because it is so hard to hear a difference between your rendition and the original.

In fact there are Copyright laws against doing this and rights must be purchased before Hacking one apart with your own "interpretation" whether it "Sounds decent" or not.

I guess it boils down to the difference between an Artist and a Listener when it comes to this issue. smile


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Wife started beating this song into our sons head at about 10 years of age. It appears that he heeded her advice on it. smile


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