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Got it. Not claiming Navy aviators as a whole are not best trained mirrored sun glass wearers.

The fall out rate for 18 series medics, start to finish is way higher than anything else the DOD has to offer.

Intelligence is only a small part of the rating.

No fuggin schidt sherlock, no one here said there was.

Blowyouonmonday must be chitstick's butt baby. Only with lower IQ.

Sugar tits hopefully you're doing well being out of work and all.

Ran 90% when I went through Flight Training. I suspect SEAL is pretty high up there as well. Pre-Flight was head game and PT intensive, near what I went through at PI, except as officers we were not "Thumped" by our Marine DIs like we were in the Crotch. After that, it was academics and of course you HAD to perform flying skills with an often-times dick of a flight instructor. Then of course there was your first carrier landing (day) and nothing in my view compares. Different skill set to be sure, but again apples/oranges comparison which is what I was trying to get through to what I also suspect was our "short" BlueMonday. Lastly, there's been many validated studies of Aviators in combat and night carrier landings and the stress factor for the latter was higher. Lastly, on the subject of medic/corpsmen, Navy also has a further qualification called "independent steam Corpsman", mostly on Subs and they are closer to a PA than a Corpsman. But combat is something our little man is a stranger to...

How many body bags have you zipped up Jorge? With a team member in them, that is.

Dumbazz, they're called Independent Duty Corpsmen, or IDC's. Those who've graduated from both the SOF Medical course called SOCM, and the IDC course, are called SOIDC's. Those guys are scarce as hen's teeth in both MARSOC and the NAVSPCWAR units.

There is only ONE unit that requires it medics to pass ALL portions of ALL the gates required of an SF Medic.

I wouldn't expect you to know all of that, as that isn't your wheelhouse, just like I don't know anything about carrier landings, except I don't think I'd have any trouble performing one with a bit of training.

Snork. After a 4 year degree and then Aviation physiology, it's basically 3 years for an Aviator to make it to the fleet and then another 2 years of on the job quals (section lead, division lead, weapons quals, PMCF, MC) to be considered basically qualified. The road to that has so many opportunities to fail that if you're not way to the right of the bell curve the odds are stacked very much against you.

Your assertion is bunk. Not saying that there are not some intelligent medics, and MANY other non-aviator folks in the enlisted ranks, there are and many have my respect and frankly I owe them my life for doing their job right for the couple plus thousand hours I flew "their" jets off boats. It was my pleasure to endorse several for commissioning and they went on to flight school.

I have also spent some time with active duty SOF sorts. They are without a doubt motivated and bright. Some of that time has been down range doing technical work in my post Navy career. While they often go on to contractor jobs afterwards, none of them would call a civilian contractor an "Operator" (note that none of the guys I worked with, USN and USA, called themselves "Operators". Their job in uniform is infinitely more complicated than a contractors support job.

I find it amusing that so many military now feel the urge to be grandiose and say they were "special forces" or "SEALS" or "Sniper Qualed" or something other than what they were which is someone who served honorably in whatever job they did, even if they were the tail more than the teeth. I blame hollywood and the myriad of "there I was books" from people who should really keep their mouths shut about what they did.

I flew as an Naval Flight Officer (ECMO) in the EA-6B and it was nearly the least sexy carrier based jet out there. We did electronic attack, one of the least tangible missions. I was not a fighter pilot. I was just a damn good ECMO.

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Rapid River ME (me in the river)

Well, being that I have one THAT WORKS FOR ME and that is what he called it, I'll go with that. Before, in all my years in the Navy 30 four months 17 days (plus two years USMC) I never heard that term... Sp TAK, what is it that you do NOW, as in today?

Today? I've got this Manual Noriega pug/mug lookin' fugger up against the digital fence and tormentin' his azz.

Cheers

You sayin' I ain't got diplomas for any training I've ever claimed? I'm always ready to take that bet. How much?

REALLY? Quonset huts didn't have the doilies you prefered?

I always get a kick out of O types that assume enlisted are all dumb drones. Says volumes of their arrogance, ignorance and lack of leadership. Always seems to be support types with no combat experience. I've enough joint time to form a few opinions.

Pulled a lot of DD214's and ERB's to verify claims by Soldiers and civilian prior service members. It's to easy to make a phone call to school houses to verify that the paperwork is real.

Have had some very honest people and some out right lairs. If they claim something from the last 25 years a couple minute bullshitting weeds em out...

First of all thank you to all vets and those currently serving.

No clue on the acronyms but I'm thankful for the people that protect this country!




W. Bill,



Endless supply of barbwire....













Looking north.




Looking south.

That's a great IPA when it's available out here.

It has a little funky flave but isn't too bad.


My favorite label of all time....

"Enlisted men are stupid, but sly and cunning, and bear watching".

Great pictures Sam.

I don't think I said anything about you. You seem a little sensitive. Most self-assured successful people I know don't seek validation from others on a constant basis. But then most of the people on the Campfire don't see a need to change their username after several thousand posts. Odd.

A couple more green shots for JStuart.

Up in GunPowder State Park, Maryland


Little spring fed pond on a friends place in Pennsylvania. Gin clear and I've never seen a body of water with so many salamanders in it.

Jorge,

What are the typical and/or most common degrees of a pilot? I was good friends with a Naval aviator when I was in college. He was math and a serious diving competitor. He flew A7's IIRC out of Lemoore (I was in San Luis Obispo). He was always welcome as he had money, we were just broke college kids.