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For 300 yards and in and for varmints anywhere from coon to coyote, what's your favorite "do all" cartridge/bullet combination? Mine has been the .204 Ruger with 35 grain Berger match/varmint bullets at 3800 fps. But, that's a heavy barrel heavy weight gun (11# with scope) and I'm looking for about a 8# gun/scope combo. Undecided about caliber/bullet and would like to hear your closing argument. Thanks fellows, Jim D
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.223. Can find brass anywhere.
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yup 223 from a practical standpoint
form an old school cool standpoint... the triple deuce
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I've owned a bunch. 17 HMR, 17 Ackley Hornet, 22LR and 22 Mag, 22 Hornet, 221 Fireball, 222, 22 Savage High Power, 223, 222 magnum, 22-250, in all kinds of guns. Savage lever actions, Anschutz, Sako, Winchester, Remington, Voere, O/U combo's in several brands... Most have come and gone.
My favorite is a .221 Fireball, followed closely by the .222. From a practical standpoint, the 204 is a screamer (I haven't scratched that itch yet) and the .223 is the most user friendly. I'd really like to give the .17 Fireball a go as well, but suspect I would feel somewhat limited with the lighter bullets. I shoot 40 gr. NBT in the .221 Fireball and it's a stone cold killer.
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My "favorite" is my 17FB....but I don't use it for Coyotes and hardly ever shoot over 200 with it....for the parameters you've set I'd use my 17Rem or 222Rem.....
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Today it's the the 17 Remington with a 25 grain Hornady HP. I vacillate between it, the 220 Swift and the 222. Depending on the mood I'm in it could be any one of those three.
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.223 and 55 grain hornadys
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223 with Hornady 60 gr V-Max and Varget. With lighter bullets, Nosler 50 gr BT with Benchmark
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.222 or .221 with a 40 grain VMax. But I am working on a new .20 VarTarg that is showing great potential.
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223 Rem - 40 gr Nosler ballistic tip / 26.3 gr VV-133 which chronographs at 3800 fps velocity out of my Cooper Classic with a 22" barrel and the same velocity out of my Cooper Varminter with a 24" barrel. All of this with consistent sub 1/2" five shot groups.
I sometime use the Hornady V-Max for ground squirrels and jack rabbits but the Nosler has given better performance on PD's and coyotes.
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223 Rem, my favorite cartridge - you can't argue with truckloads of dead PD's and gophers.
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Hands down a 222 Remington magnum. With 40 grain V-Max bullets and H-335, velocities approach 4000 fps. I shoot 5 in all configurations and it is as good as it gets to 400 yards...
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Thanks guys, this is very good information & I enjoy reading your comments. Great!!! Jim D
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I have and use varmint rifles chambered for 17rem, 223, 222mag, and 22-250. I don't get to varmint hunt as much as I'd like due to where I live but did a bunch before I moved. I have to say my favorite is the 17 with 25gr Hornady bullets. It's nice to watch impacts at 10x in a sporter weight gun.
Second would be the 22-250 with 50gr Ballistic tips. Shot this combo for a long time on coyotes and bobcats, as well as the occasional dozen p dogs. It's been dynamite on every critter I ever pointed it at and I want to build another for a calling rifle when I move back.
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Two out of three guys use 55 grain Hornady in 22-250, the other guy is using a 223 rem with Sierra 50 grain. Obviously, we have him outgunned. The latest rumor at the sportsman club he is dealing on a 22-250.
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I've never worried about caliber too much and have used 222 Rem, 223 Rem, 5.6x50 R Màg, 22 Savage Highpower and 6.5x58 R Sauer in çombo guns for hunting in forest and brush country. It is nice to have both a shotgun and rifle without having to pack two weapons. The cover is tight enough that you rarely get a second shot ànd not often have enough time to switch guns. 16x16/6.5x58R Sauer 29 paces with an ounce of NP BB's 12/22 Savage Highpower(5.6x52R) 39 paces with 1 1/4 ounce of NP BB's 12/5.6x50R Mag This one hung up at about 80 yards and fell to a 52gr Speer HP Bolt actions in open country. I use a wildcat 22-204 with 40 gr NBT's for pelt hunting, a 6mm-204 with 55gr NBT's Lead Frees in non-toxic àreas and a 22-250 with 52 gr Speer Varmint bullets.
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Gonesouth: For performance, accuracy, barrel life, barrel heating, flat trajectory, lack of recoil (spot your own hits!) and lethality on virtually ALL Varmints the answer is = the 204 Ruger cartridge! Combine this cartridge with either the 35 grain Berger bullets or with the 32 grain Sierra Blitz-Kings and you can "do it all"! Currently all six of my 204 Ruger Varmint Rifles are of the heavy barrel, heavy stocked variety - my lightest 204 Ruger Rifle is a Ruger #1-V-SS. That model might be a cool choice for you - I personally have just never seen the need for a lightweight 204 - I gladly pack the weight for the enhanced performance afield of the heavier gun. In my experience the 204 Ruger also excells at night when Hunting/calling/spotlighting and when ranges are difficult to estimate/ascertain quickly - shine on here with the 204 Ruger big time! Again, within your parameters the correct answer is 204 Ruger - "argument closed". Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
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For 300 yards and in and for varmints anywhere from coon to coyote, what's your favorite "do all" cartridge/bullet combination? Mine has been the .204 Ruger with 35 grain Berger match/varmint bullets at 3800 fps. But, that's a heavy barrel heavy weight gun (11# with scope) and I'm looking for about a 8# gun/scope combo. Undecided about caliber/bullet and would like to hear your closing argument. Thanks fellows, Jim D At three hundred yards and in, you have a lot of choices. You could stick with the 204 and go to a nice "walking varmint rifle" like the CZ 527, for example.
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For 300 yards and in and for varmints anywhere from coon to coyote, what's your favorite "do all" cartridge/bullet combination? Mine has been the .204 Ruger with 35 grain Berger match/varmint bullets at 3800 fps. But, that's a heavy barrel heavy weight gun (11# with scope) and I'm looking for about a 8# gun/scope combo. Undecided about caliber/bullet and would like to hear your closing argument. Thanks fellows, Jim D At three hundred yards and in, you have a lot of choices. You could stick with the 204 and go to a nice "walking varmint rifle" like the CZ 527, for example. x2! Those little rifles are just the right weight and shoot lights out. Not heavy for a varmint weight barrel either.
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I like my .223 or 222 for gophers and prairie dogs.. For my other varmint shooting the Swift or.22/250 is my pick!
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VarmintGuy: I like the 204 a lot. I have ALS and it's robbed me of some of my strength. It's very hard to hold one of my 10-11# target/varmint rigs off hand, almost can't do it. I've been thinking of buying a Kimber Montana in .223, I can get one NIB for $995, and if I can't get it to shoot 40-50 grainers at high velocity, re-barrel it to .204. I know that's expensive but I never could get into sissy hobbies like flower gardening or art painting. My toys have all been expensive. To all you other outstanding guys: Thanks for all your information & feedback. I appreciate all of it. Jim D
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