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What did the crosshairs look like?



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Don't forget an angle cosine indicator, kestrel, 3 smart phones with ballistic software and properly installed wind flags strategically placed throughout the COF... Poor ole Don just ain't up to speed...

How do you fückers ever get any shooting done dicking around with all that bullshit...

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Anything to make shooting chit seem like running a rocket ship.


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Originally Posted by elkhuntinguide
Don't forget an angle cosine indicator, kestrel, 3 smart phones with ballistic software and properly installed wind flags strategically placed throughout the COF... Poor ole Don just ain't up to speed...

How do you fückers ever get any shooting done dicking around with all that bullshit...



An angle cosine indicator or rangefinder showing angle is actually very necessary if the shots are uphill or downhill drastically. Good catch there ehg!


On a recent hunt where the conditions were such, a buddy shot an animal at 750 yards and ignored his cosine indicator. He still took a bit off of his data. He hit and killed the animal above the one he was actually shooting at.


I did some practice shooting at the end of the hunt on some boulder faces to just see how much angle affects the data and POI. Ballistic AE has an angle compensation on the HUD.

Lasering a horizontal split in a rock face with a good POA picked out, the rangefinder read 1275 yards uphill at 23.5 degrees. When the angle was input into AE, the data changed from 8.8 mils to 8 mils even. I wanted to see if this was correct so I had a buddy spot with a mil reticle to measure any vertical error accurately.

The data change by AE was perfect as 3 shots went exactly into the POI and probably a 4" group.


If you don't think angle has a dramatic affect on POI, you're completely ignorant.

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Originally Posted by huntsman22
Originally Posted by Axtell
Maybe a barrel obstruction, cleaning patch, cleaning rod etc?



Yeah. That's it. I always stop right in the middle of a string, to clean and leave patches and rods in the bore. Jeezuss, Do you really think I just fell off the turnip cart today? But go ahead, tell yourself whatever you want, so you can 'contribute'. Or just google it. Seems that is your standard answer to things you know 'all' about.




An investment cast Ruger.......no wonder Hornaday distanced themselves from this mess.
The reason this thing blew can be found out, have you expended any effort to find out? what were the conclusions?

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Originally Posted by elkhuntinguide
Don't forget an angle cosine indicator, kestrel, 3 smart phones with ballistic software and properly installed wind flags strategically placed throughout the COF... Poor ole Don just ain't up to speed...

How do you fückers ever get any shooting done dicking around with all that bullshit...


LMAO. What I want to know is, where'd you get the little dots that let you spell out f*ckers?



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Originally Posted by huntsman22
yessir. Hornady said tough chit...... Ruger VT in 204. Ruger did replace the rifle after a fight.....


Wow. I know just a lot of folks hate Weatherbys, but I had a similar incident before a safari and their loaded Barnes X ammo. Locked the bolt down I had to beat it w a mallet and the primers were blown. This was like TWO weeks before my hunt. I called Weatherby and they not only paid for me to UPS the rifle to them overnight for inspection, but they replaced all four boxes of ammo but I requested Hornady Spire points which did "ok".


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Someone took their @sshole pills today.


This thread tends to bring out the worst in folks. grin


Yep.



Some folks are set in there ways. Any idea different than theirs brings a defensive position.

It doesn't have to be level or vertical......only has to look that way!

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Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by elkhuntinguide
Don't forget an angle cosine indicator, kestrel, 3 smart phones with ballistic software and properly installed wind flags strategically placed throughout the COF... Poor ole Don just ain't up to speed...

How do you fückers ever get any shooting done dicking around with all that bullshit...


LMAO. What I want to know is, where'd you get the little dots that let you spell out f*ckers?


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Originally Posted by Axtell
An investment cast Ruger.......no wonder Hornaday distanced themselves from this mess.


Axtell, I wonder about you...... Where do you come up with this chit? Ruger and Hornady were joint developers of both the 204 Ruger and the 17HMR. Do you honestly think Hornady 'distanced' themselves from Ruger over this? They knew full-fugging well, going in, that the 204 was going to be chambered in that chitty 'investment cast' 77. If you have doubts about the strength of Ruger actions, your 'knowledge' is showing....Again......


Everyone knows the reason 'this thing blew', but nobody will take responsibility. No cause to go all 'expended any effort' to try to prove that Hornady over-charged the cartridge. Both Ruger, and later Hornady, examined the rifle and determined there was no sign of obstruction.

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Originally Posted by huntsman22
Hornady said tough chit.......


Hornady should have crapped out some money huntsman22. Preachin' to the choir, I know.


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While I have no experience with the 204 I do know that case capacity is very close to the 223.

With the 223 and appropriate powder a case full would probably get a sticky bolt or at worst a blown primer.

I suggest the correct amount of the wrong powder got in the case. The manufacturer probably knows the reason and also knows they can out 'lawyer' you, hence the distancing.

Did it leave you with a flinch?

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Naturally since he thought it was Hornadays fault he fought with Ruger to make them give him a new rifle. Stand up guy...








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Originally Posted by huntsman22
Originally Posted by Axtell
An investment cast Ruger.......no wonder Hornaday distanced themselves from this mess.


Axtell, I wonder about you...... Where do you come up with this chit?


It's obvious ain't it? Wal-Mart had a sale on ass-hole pills.



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Originally Posted by huntsman22

Everyone knows the reason 'this thing blew', but nobody will take responsibility. No cause to go all 'expended any effort' to try to prove that Hornady over-charged the cartridge. Both Ruger, and later Hornady, examined the rifle and determined there was no sign of obstruction.

Why not? The next time it happens someone may be killed. Hornady should have written you a BIG check.

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Originally Posted by Magnumdood
Originally Posted by huntsman22

Everyone knows the reason 'this thing blew', but nobody will take responsibility. No cause to go all 'expended any effort' to try to prove that Hornady over-charged the cartridge. Both Ruger, and later Hornady, examined the rifle and determined there was no sign of obstruction.

Why not? The next time it happens someone may be killed. Hornady should have written you a BIG check.




Exäctly, but I guess everything is cool 'caüse he got a new rifle out of the deal,,,,altered facial features and probably a flinch, but the word is not in on that yet.

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99.9% Ammo issues are user based. If indeed it was a issue with the ammunition it's almost always a headspace problem not an over charging issue.
Sorry huntsman if I hurt your feelings your little high school girl backhanded comments are great keep up the good work princess.

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99.9% of issues with factory ammo is user error?
Almost always a headspace issue? Do you always talk out your ass, or just when your posting drunk and anonymously on the internet?

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Originally Posted by jackmountain
99.9% of issues with factory ammo is user error?
Almost always a headspace issue? Do you always talk out your ass, or just when your posting drunk and anonymously on the internet?


It seems you know what the biggest issue with factory ammo is. Can you share?


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