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Ignoring it doesn't make it go away. It's worked for Trump's laundry list of defects and inadequacies. Don't worry, Hillary will bring them back to light for you.
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It's so obvious nobody can explain it. O K........ If Trump has less than 1237 delegates, then he gets those votes on the first two ballots. Cruz, or Kasich, get their delegates plus more from the "dropouts" on the second ballot. The third ballot is where Trump's delegates start abandoning him in favor of who the RNC directs them to. If Cruz maintains his margin over Kasich in the remaining contests, it will likely be a Cruz/Kasich ticket. Trump's path is simpler...... win 1237 delegates or go home. He's talking about the general election. Which states does Cruz win that Romney lost?
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It's so obvious nobody can explain it. O K........ If Trump has less than 1237 delegates, then he gets those votes on the first two ballots. Cruz, or Kasich, get their delegates plus more from the "dropouts" on the second ballot. The third ballot is where Trump's delegates start abandoning him in favor of who the RNC directs them to. If Cruz maintains his margin over Kasich in the remaining contests, it will likely be a Cruz/Kasich ticket. Trump's path is simpler...... win 1237 delegates or go home. I'm not talking about the nomination. I am talking about the election. Assume your guy is the nominee. How does he win states that Romney lost to pick up enough electoral college votes to win the election. Consider, especially, what happened in the Ohio primary, and how that plays into the general election. I am not a Trump guy. I have not even decided that I am voting this election.
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If we are depending on Democrats to elect our candidate, why even try?
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If we are depending on Democrats to elect our candidate, why even try? If trump would have stayed anti-gun and pro obamacare, he would have attracted more democrats.
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If we are depending on Democrats to elect our candidate, why even try? ------------- That's where your major disconnect lies. To call blue doggers and Independents democrats whose votes should not be sought borders on political suicide. It's the main reason you see Cruz shifting towards the middle when he's not agreeing with Trump on virtually every platform issue.
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I'll be damn if Herman Cain didn't just read my post out loud on national TV.
Not bad for a low info Trump supporter, eh?
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Political suicide is when your party becomes their party. Mine killed itself 50 years ago. I have no respect for those remaining.
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I'll be damn if Herman Cain didn't just read my post out loud on national TV.
Not bad for a low info Trump supporter, eh? About me being a great guy? Most of the other one's are lies. Hey...wait a minute....
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Cheyenne...you can't make it simpler and you're not going to get your answer from the Cruz supporters because they don't have one.
I know. I keep trying to employ a redirection technique that is used on people who are detached from reality, in order to try to get them focus on something concrete. I don't know the answers, and I am not spending all day reading a bunch of charts and graphs like I did 20 years ago. I figure that, with as much bandwidth as is being wasted on just this forum alone, somebody has taken an objective look at the charts and graphs and can steer me to something concrete. But, it's all about "he said, she said" and tangents.
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Exactly why the voters aren't going to permit Cruz to make it 54 years.
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Cheyenne...you can't make it simpler and you're not going to get your answer from the Cruz supporters because they don't have one.
I know. I keep trying to employ a redirection technique that is used on people who are detached from reality, in order to try to get them focus on something concrete. I don't know the answers, and I am not spending all day reading a bunch of charts and graphs like I did 20 years ago. I figure that, with as much bandwidth as is being wasted on just this forum alone, somebody has taken an objective look at the charts and graphs and can steer me to something concrete. But, it's all about "he said, she said" and tangents. That is because there are no guarantees in politics. Only Bob can tell you exactly how everything will happen in the future.
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I know. I keep trying to employ a redirection technique that is used on people who are detached from reality, in order to try to get them focus on something concrete.
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You did redirect. At least 4 times. They're smart enough to know you did so, as well.
Like I said, they know the answer. You're not going to get it. You won't get the answer after Cruz is mathematically eliminated for as long as Cruz has to still rely on the GOPe and Kasich to give him another less than 2% chance at a contested convention, which isn't going to happen.
Consider doing as I've done and accept their silence as the best affirmative answer to your question you're going to get.
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What silence? All he needs is votes to win. If Cruz doesn't get them, he doesn't win. It's Kasich that has no chance but being brokered, and probably not even then.
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Educate yourself. You've been listening to hippies. I'll help you out Colorado - No access on state trust lands without enrollment in PAP. WY - No camping on state trust lands. NM - no access without a purchased permit, no camping, no hunting without Game dept purchased easement, lesee controls surface access. MT - Restricted camping on state trust lands and no off-road travel.
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That is because there are no guarantees in politics. Only Bob can tell you exactly how everything will happen in the future.
Of course there are no guarantees. There are no guarantees in the stock market, either. But, there still are a lot of people who know how to make money because they can analyze data and spot trends and opportunities. In politics, things like voter demographics, registration, turnout, salient issues, financial resources, morale and motivation, public perception, organization and ground game all go into the mix. I hope that the Republicans are slicing and dicing the Ohio data, because, to win, somebody is going to have to pick off some 2012 blue states. Pennsylvania is another potentially important one, but the primary is not until late April. Hillary is running the general election now and the eventual winning Republican needs to be doing that as well. A brokered or contested convention puts the Republicans farther behind the 8 ball, regardless of who gets the nomination.
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Educate yourself. You've been listening to hippies. I'll help you out Colorado - No access on state trust lands without enrollment in PAP. WY - No camping on state trust lands. NM - no access without a purchased permit, no camping, no hunting without Game dept purchased easement, lesee controls surface access. MT - Restricted camping on state trust lands and no off-road travel. Have you petitioned your state land commissioners or representatives? As far as control transferred to the local level, all that can be fixed with one sentence. "All public lands in this transfer cannot be closed to public use, sold, bartered, or traded, and must remain open to the multiple use of the People."
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"Don't believe everything you see on the Internet" - Abraham Lincoln
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Need to add the tear drop tats.
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