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Hello. I've a question about the best way to level a scope. I use a one piece picatinny rail on my bolt guns with Warne QD rings and 2 Innovative Technologies magnetic scope levels. I put 1 on my rail, if aluminum I use a tight rubber band from end to end & around the stock, and 1 on my elevation turret without the cap. When my rail is square & level I use the 1 on the turret to level my scope then tighten rings while watching the level for a change. To me the cross hair is level but some of my friends pick up the gun & say the scope needs to roll either R or L which brings me to a big question. If your center POI is the same at 400 yards, vertically, as it is at 100 yards, doesn't that indicate your scope is mounted square with the bore? I would love to hear any suggestions on mounting a scope. Thank you very much, Jim D
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I use one of these, though mine is the original with no level.
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I use one of these, though mine is the original with no level. Yep...same here.
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Your friends may be canting the rifle when they shoulder it. Everyone is built different and therefore don't hold exactly the same way.
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keep it straight for your eye and to hell with your friends
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Our very own Hi_Vel here on the campfire, designed and patented just such a device. It is smple and effective and can get your scope mounted squarely even if the rifle is canted...
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Where's Huntsman22, he has a patented scope leveler too.
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keep it straight for your eye and to hell with your friends Ha ha...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Our very own Hi_Vel here on the campfire, designed and patented just such a device. It is smple and effective and can get your scope mounted squarely even if the rifle is canted... I've been using this gadget for about a year or 2 now. Works pretty slick. Can be a little challenging aligning a fine reticle with it though..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Where's Huntsman22, he has a patented scope leveled too. He's probably working on his jack 2000 shooting rest..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I wonder how many of us think that we have our scopes 100% level, but then when it comes time to shoot, hold them a bit canted and still manage to hit what we are shooting at.
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I wonder how many of us think that we have our scopes 100% level, but then when it comes time to shoot, hold them a bit canted and still manage to hit what we are shooting at. Mine are good enough for confirmed 700 yard 1 shot kills on mulies. That's all I care about..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Like Shrapnel, I too use He-Vel's. It is simple, it works, and it saves a ton of time second guessing. Plus it is made in Montana, by Americans. He also has a new one out for ARs, that have A3/Flattop type receivers. I have not had a chance to use it yet, but it is one nicely machined piece of material.
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Like Shrapnel, I too use He-Vel's. It is simple, it works, and it saves a ton of time second guessing. Plus it is made in Montana, by Americans. He also has a new one out for ARs, that have A3/Flattop type receivers. I have not had a chance to use it yet, but it is one nicely machined piece of material. I have one of those I'm testing. It's top notch. I'll be submitting a test, and some pictures soon.
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I use a weighted string behind the gun cradle. If you line the string up to the center of the bore and the center of the cross hairs you can see the vertical plane and twist the scope to eliminate the cant. A flashlight shined in will illuminate through to the wall behind it and it becomes easy to see.
Lots of devices for leveling a gun while shooting.
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Mackay, do you contact him for one or are they available elsewhere?
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Your friends may be canting the rifle when they shoulder it. Everyone is built different and therefore don't hold exactly the same way. I had a guy look through the scope on my Rem 7600 and say my scope was canted. I told him I bet it's not! I put a magnetic level on the side of the receiver and used a plumb bob. I know all levels aren't created equal but I'm sure the scope was closer then the guy was!
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Mackay, do you contact him for one or are they available elsewhere? http://parabola-llc.com/purchase/
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I need to pick one of those up from Hi_Vel.
I've used plumb bob, window panes, simple levels with a vice. They all work.
I've eye balled a lot of them. Some of them looked canted but were close enough at 300 to leave it alone.
If you use DNZ mounts the nevel is quick, easy, and works. I used a piece of scotch tape to tighten it a little.
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Hello. I've a question about the best way to level a scope. I use a one piece picatinny rail on my bolt guns with Warne QD rings and 2 Innovative Technologies magnetic scope levels. I put 1 on my rail, if aluminum I use a tight rubber band from end to end & around the stock, and 1 on my elevation turret without the cap. When my rail is square & level I use the 1 on the turret to level my scope then tighten rings while watching the level for a change. To me the cross hair is level but some of my friends pick up the gun & say the scope needs to roll either R or L which brings me to a big question. If your center POI is the same at 400 yards, vertically, as it is at 100 yards, doesn't that indicate your scope is mounted square with the bore? I would love to hear any suggestions on mounting a scope. Thank you very much, Jim D
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