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Re: SCOPE LEVELING QUESTION gonesouth #11071237 03/25/16
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 22,939 Likes: 16 Kiowa/Deer Trail, Colorado huntsman22 Campfire Ranger
huntsman22 Campfire Ranger Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 22,939 Likes: 16 Kiowa/Deer Trail, Colorado	+100 on hi-vels little gizmo. In fact, I just used it again yesterday while moving the scope on the new chassis.....

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Re: SCOPE LEVELING QUESTION gonesouth #11071337 03/25/16
Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 10,886 Likes: 66 rcamuglia Campfire Outfitter
rcamuglia Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 10,886 Likes: 66	Can someone describe how that gizmo works? Originally Posted by Bristoe The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.

Re: SCOPE LEVELING QUESTION gonesouth #11071370 03/25/16
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 111 USA D dznnf7 Campfire Member
dznnf7 Campfire Member D Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 111 USA	http://parabola-llc.com/links/

Re: SCOPE LEVELING QUESTION gonesouth #11071381 03/25/16
Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 5,197 Montana......NE Corner.. scenarshooter Campfire Tracker
scenarshooter Campfire Tracker Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 5,197 Montana......NE Corner..	Here's the new AR model. The machining on this tool is about as close to perfect as possible...That's just how Hi_Vel rolls. Perfectionist is an understatement. Luck....is the residue of design...

Re: SCOPE LEVELING QUESTION gonesouth #11071395 03/25/16
Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 5,197 Montana......NE Corner.. scenarshooter Campfire Tracker
scenarshooter Campfire Tracker Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 5,197 Montana......NE Corner..	On this model, instead of having two points to line up, there are index marks on the lower part that allows you to use it to square up the charging handle. It works perfect. Luck....is the residue of design...

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Re: SCOPE LEVELING QUESTION gonesouth #11071396 03/25/16
Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 97 Southeast Texas gonesouth OP Campfire Greenhorn
OP gonesouth Campfire Greenhorn Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 97 Southeast Texas	Thanks guys. Where can I purchase the Hi_Vel tool? I'll order one today. Jim D

Re: SCOPE LEVELING QUESTION gonesouth #11071418 03/25/16
Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 1,789 Buffalo, Wyoming Sendero_man Campfire Regular
Sendero_man Campfire Regular Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 1,789 Buffalo, Wyoming	Originally Posted by gonesouth Thanks guys. Where can I purchase the Hi_Vel tool? I'll order one today. Jim D http://www.parabola-llc.com I have the AR model as well. Incredible tool !!

Re: SCOPE LEVELING QUESTION Sendero_man #11071456 03/25/16
Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,170 Likes: 17 Banana Belt, Montana M Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna
Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna M Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,170 Likes: 17 Banana Belt, Montana	Yep, it beats everything else available by a long ways, in both convenience and accuracy. I've yet to find any reticle-leveling tool that includes a small spirit level to work very well, partly because it's just about impossible to make a small spirit level that's very accurate AND lines up with the rest of the tool. In fact have used Hi-Vel's tool to straighten a bunch of crooked scopes that were supposedly set up straight with spirit-level tools. “Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck

Re: SCOPE LEVELING QUESTION gonesouth #11071469 03/25/16
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 15,878 Likes: 11 M Mackay_Sagebrush Campfire Ranger
Mackay_Sagebrush Campfire Ranger M Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 15,878 Likes: 11	http://parabola-llc.com/links/ The videos at the link do a much better job than me typing, and you can order from the website. It should be noted that at first glance, the product looks fairly simple. In usage, it is. In development, I can tell from communicating with Hi-vel it was definitely not. Many have heard of "Occam's Razor". This is a metaphysical/problem solving principle that essentially states that the simplest answer is usually the correct one. Hi-Vel fine tuned this down to the simplest, user friendly form. I think he nailed it. THE CHAIR IS AGAINST THE WALL. The Tikka T3 in .308 Winchester is the Glock 19 of the rifle world. The website is up and running! www.lostriverammocompany.com

Re: SCOPE LEVELING QUESTION gonesouth #11071499 03/25/16
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 14,534 Likes: 3 Calgary, AB, Canada Jordan Smith Campfire Outfitter
Jordan Smith Campfire Outfitter Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 14,534 Likes: 3 Calgary, AB, Canada	I also use the Reticle Tru. It's the best thing going for mounting scopes that don't have flat bottom erector housings, and are not sitting on one-piece rails. In those cases, a simple feeler gauge placed between the flat scope bottom and the one-piece rail as the scope rings are tightened gets the scope square with the receiver. For everything else, the RT is amazing.

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Re: SCOPE LEVELING QUESTION Mule Deer #11071505 03/25/16
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 22,939 Likes: 16 Kiowa/Deer Trail, Colorado huntsman22 Campfire Ranger
huntsman22 Campfire Ranger Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 22,939 Likes: 16 Kiowa/Deer Trail, Colorado	Originally Posted by Mule Deer it's just about impossible to make a small spirit level that's very accurate My Stabila is gay-ron-teed to .029 degree of accuracy......ha!

Re: SCOPE LEVELING QUESTION gonesouth #11071516 03/25/16
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 22,939 Likes: 16 Kiowa/Deer Trail, Colorado huntsman22 Campfire Ranger
huntsman22 Campfire Ranger Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 22,939 Likes: 16 Kiowa/Deer Trail, Colorado	But wait. There's more..... Add the integrated rangefinder mount, proprietary clamping system, electric trigger AND the 'Keyboard Kommando' interface to your ballistic smartphone, and there is just about NO way to miss...... Last edited by huntsman22; 03/25/16.

Re: SCOPE LEVELING QUESTION gonesouth #11071592 03/25/16
Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 5,736 North Carolina C colodog Campfire Tracker
colodog Campfire Tracker C Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 5,736 North Carolina	Don, don't forget to show the balsa wood airplane propeller, anemometer! I need a Retical-Tru as well. "Camping places fix themselves in your mind as if you had spent long periods of your life in them. You will remember a curve of your wagon track in the grass of the plain like the features of a friend." Isak Dinesen

Re: SCOPE LEVELING QUESTION gonesouth #11071607 03/25/16
Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 10,886 Likes: 66 rcamuglia Campfire Outfitter
rcamuglia Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 10,886 Likes: 66	Just watched the video. Seems like it's "Ok", but far from a precision scope mount. Originally Posted by Bristoe The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.

Re: SCOPE LEVELING QUESTION gonesouth #11071620 03/25/16
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,336 Greater Browningsville, KY S shaman Campfire Outfitter
shaman Campfire Outfitter S Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,336 Greater Browningsville, KY	I'm coming a bit late to this conversation, but I thought I would put in my $.02. I have a bore sighter. It's a $30 BSA model I got off Sportsman's Guide many years ago. http://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/bsa-boresighter-kit?a=1174794 The interesting thing about this boresighter is that besides giving you a decent boresight, it also works as a leveler in a backhanded sort of way. When I explain, you'll see what I mean. If you have a scope in the process of being mounted, your scope can conceivably roll in the rings. There is one position that brings the scope's crosshairs perfectly aligned up and down. Then you have the boresighter. It works by attaching an appropriately sized arbor and stuffing it down the barrel. Again, there is only one position that brings the boresighter's grid perfectly level, but the axis it turns on is different than the scopes. There is one and only one configuration that bring the boresighter's grid and the scope's crosshairs exactly aligned, and that is one where the scope and the boresighter are rotated to the exact position they should be. If the scope is even a little bit off, the grid on the boresighter will not align. The rifle itself can be cocked off-level, but there is still only one solution that works. As a result, I stuff the boresighter in the bore before I have the screws fully screwed down. I rotate the scope and the boresighter until the grid and the crosshairs are aligned. Then I tighten the screws on the rings down to 20 ft/lbs. Then I adjust the scope so that it lines of to the dark zero lines on the the boresighter grid. My final test is mounting the scope with the forearm resting on the flat of my left palm and doing a final offhand check. Since I started using the boresighter, I have gone from having trouble hitting a double page of newspaper at 100 yards to being on an 8.5"X11" sheet of paper at 100 yards with my first shot. The boresighter has more than paid for itself in ammo saved getting on the paper. It has also removed the problem of unleveled scopes. My suggestion to folks is that anything but a boresighter that works off an arbor in the barrel is redundant. I recommend eschewing all other methods and springing for the boresighter. Genesis 9:2-4 Ministries Lighthearted Confessions of a Cervid Serial Killer

Re: SCOPE LEVELING QUESTION Whttail_in_MT #11072110 03/25/16
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 12,664 West Virginia D Dave_in_WV Campfire Outfitter
Dave_in_WV Campfire Outfitter D Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 12,664 West Virginia	Originally Posted by Whttail_in_MT Originally Posted by Dave_in_WV Mackay, do you contact him for one or are they available elsewhere? http://parabola-llc.com/purchase/ Thanks. The Karma bus always has an empty seat when it comes around.- High Brass There's battle lines being drawn Nobody's right if everybody's wrong

Re: SCOPE LEVELING QUESTION gonesouth #11072154 03/25/16
Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 1,789 Buffalo, Wyoming Sendero_man Campfire Regular
Sendero_man Campfire Regular Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 1,789 Buffalo, Wyoming	Don.... Can't wait to see in person!! Need to get the patent paperwork done before someone steals your idea

Re: SCOPE LEVELING QUESTION shaman #11072252 03/25/16
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 24,614 Likes: 22 Bozeman, MT shrapnel Campfire Ranger
shrapnel Campfire Ranger Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 24,614 Likes: 22 Bozeman, MT	Originally Posted by shaman I'm coming a bit late to this conversation, but I thought I would put in my $.02. I have a bore sighter. It's a $30 BSA model I got off Sportsman's Guide many years ago. http://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/bsa-boresighter-kit?a=1174794 The interesting thing about this boresighter is that besides giving you a decent boresight, it also works as a leveler in a backhanded sort of way. When I explain, you'll see what I mean. If you have a scope in the process of being mounted, your scope can conceivably roll in the rings. There is one position that brings the scope's crosshairs perfectly aligned up and down. Then you have the boresighter. It works by attaching an appropriately sized arbor and stuffing it down the barrel. Again, there is only one position that brings the boresighter's grid perfectly level, but the axis it turns on is different than the scopes. There is one and only one configuration that bring the boresighter's grid and the scope's crosshairs exactly aligned, and that is one where the scope and the boresighter are rotated to the exact position they should be. If the scope is even a little bit off, the grid on the boresighter will not align. The rifle itself can be cocked off-level, but there is still only one solution that works. As a result, I stuff the boresighter in the bore before I have the screws fully screwed down. I rotate the scope and the boresighter until the grid and the crosshairs are aligned. Then I tighten the screws on the rings down to 20 ft/lbs. Then I adjust the scope so that it lines of to the dark zero lines on the the boresighter grid. My final test is mounting the scope with the forearm resting on the flat of my left palm and doing a final offhand check. Since I started using the boresighter, I have gone from having trouble hitting a double page of newspaper at 100 yards to being on an 8.5"X11" sheet of paper at 100 yards with my first shot. The boresighter has more than paid for itself in ammo saved getting on the paper. It has also removed the problem of unleveled scopes. My suggestion to folks is that anything but a boresighter that works off an arbor in the barrel is redundant. I recommend eschewing all other methods and springing for the boresighter. That won't work all the time. This is an exaggeration of a scope that is not level, but you can see that even on 2 different axis, it is possible to align the grid and the crosshair and not even being close to level...

Re: SCOPE LEVELING QUESTION shrapnel #11072358 03/25/16
Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 8,625 UPSTATE NY T tbear99 Campfire Outfitter
tbear99 Campfire Outfitter T Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 8,625 UPSTATE NY	Originally Posted by shrapnel Our very own Hi_Vel here on the campfire, designed and patented just such a device. It is smple and effective and can get your scope mounted squarely even if the rifle is canted... I've always used the magnetic levels i'll have to check these out DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR I LOVE MY COUNTRY IT'S THE GOV'T I FEAR

Re: SCOPE LEVELING QUESTION gonesouth #11072370 03/25/16
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 17,527 Colorado D dogcatcher223 Campfire Ranger
dogcatcher223 Campfire Ranger D Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 17,527 Colorado	You're still just eyeballing it with that device. A real level like Innovative Technologies and a verified vertical line down range is fool proof.

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