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Recently the media has started finally noticing all the behind the scenes delegate shuffling. The stories have been how much better at it Cruz is. Cruz picking up these delegates who are chosen in differing ways gives Cruz an advantage. The reason why is because the people running for these spots are people who are involved politically. Its the same reason Cruz does well in caucus states. The more educated and informed the voter is the more likely they are voting Cruz. people running for delegates tend to be people who are keenly interested in politics. They always vote and often are pretty involved in the process. It easy to see why trump would underperform with these people.

The next few contests no doubt are a heavy lift for Cruz. I actually thought he would lose everything coming up and have to wait till may and june before he could start winning again. Pennsylvania and west virgina elect delegates differently. Its starting to look like those states which likely will go trump in the popular vote, Cruz could end up winning the delegates instead. The delegates there are also uncommitted. Cruz is cleaning house when delgates are decided this way, He is actually winning them all in other states. Its getting to the point now where even a loss in california means Cruz could still be in the mix. a win in california could see Cruz entering the convention ahead of trump.

I had cruz and trump splitting the last 16 states, but that was before details emerged of the behind the scenes horse trading of delegates and how successful Cruz has been at it. I also feel trump not debating anymore is hurting him. It seems like finally the media hype is settling. I keep saying this Cruz is still in this. There is also one other little talked about scenerio the South carolina delgates become unbound on the first ballot if the person they are bound for refuses to support the nominee. Trump has said if its not him he will not support them. I think an argument should be made by cruz to suggest trump has unbound them. for what its worth I see more of a path for Cruz today than I did when he won texas and lost all those states in the deep south.

on edit, I just looked and most states have committed delegates and uncommitted. Its very possible indeed likely Cruz could have alot of "trump delegates" that are in the uncommitted catagory. The delegate math may not be what people think it is. I would say at this point no one actually knows.

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Cruz is about to the point where he can't win the nomination outright. If he stays in after that, and drags out the turmoil in the party, everyone will know that he's more concerned about himself than the good of the country. After that, it will be a hard sell to get a lot of people to vote republican to keep the evil democrats out of office.

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Washington D.C. Law Professor Victor Williams charges that Ted Cruz fraudulently certified his constitutional eligibility for office to gain ballot access. Williams demands that Cruz be disqualified from several late-primary ballots: "Cruz committed ballot access fraud in each state when he falsely swore that he was a 'natural born' American citizen." Cruz was born in Calgary, Canada and held his resulting Canadian citizenship until May 2014. Cruz is a naturalized (not natural born) American citizen.

Williams' fraud charges had quick effect in New Jersey. Rather than accepting Cruz's ballot petition when filed last week, the Secretary of State (Kim Guadagno) scheduled the unusual Administrative Law hearing for April 11. The Canadian-born Cruz must prove that he did not falsely certify his eligibility for office.

Cruz's ballot eligibility is also being challenged in California, Maryland, Montana, Nebraska, Oregon, South Dakota, and Washington.


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Originally Posted by steve4102
Washington D.C. Law Professor Victor Williams charges that Ted Cruz fraudulently certified his constitutional eligibility for office to gain ballot access. Williams demands that Cruz be disqualified from several late-primary ballots: "Cruz committed ballot access fraud in each state when he falsely swore that he was a 'natural born' American citizen." Cruz was born in Calgary, Canada and held his resulting Canadian citizenship until May 2014. Cruz is a naturalized (not natural born) American citizen.

Williams' fraud charges had quick effect in New Jersey. Rather than accepting Cruz's ballot petition when filed last week, the Secretary of State (Kim Guadagno) scheduled the unusual Administrative Law hearing for April 11. The Canadian-born Cruz must prove that he did not falsely certify his eligibility for office.

Cruz's ballot eligibility is also being challenged in California, Maryland, Montana, Nebraska, Oregon, South Dakota, and Washington.


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3/31/16 Cruz wins citizenship case in Pennsylvania Supreme Court
AP: HARRISBURG, Pa. — Texas Sen. Ted Cruz has won a case in Pennsylvania’s highest court that had challenged his eligibility to appear on the state’s GOP primary ballot and serve as president.

The state Supreme Court order Thursday upheld a lower-court judge’s decision to dismiss the case.


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Originally Posted by cumminscowboy
Recently the media has started finally noticing all the behind the scenes delegate shuffling. The stories have been how much better at it Cruz is. Cruz picking up these delegates who are chosen in differing ways gives Cruz an advantage. The reason why is because the people running for these spots are people who are involved politically. Its the same reason Cruz does well in caucus states. The more educated and informed the voter is the more likely they are voting Cruz. people running for delegates tend to be people who are keenly interested in politics. They always vote and often are pretty involved in the process. It easy to see why trump would underperform with these people.

The next few contests no doubt are a heavy lift for Cruz. I actually thought he would lose everything coming up and have to wait till may and june before he could start winning again. Pennsylvania and west virgina elect delegates differently. Its starting to look like those states which likely will go trump in the popular vote, Cruz could end up winning the delegates instead. The delegates there are also uncommitted. Cruz is cleaning house when delgates are decided this way, He is actually winning them all in other states. Its getting to the point now where even a loss in california means Cruz could still be in the mix. a win in california could see Cruz entering the convention ahead of trump.

I had cruz and trump splitting the last 16 states, but that was before details emerged of the behind the scenes horse trading of delegates and how successful Cruz has been at it. I also feel trump not debating anymore is hurting him. It seems like finally the media hype is settling. I keep saying this Cruz is still in this. There is also one other little talked about scenerio the South carolina delgates become unbound on the first ballot if the person they are bound for refuses to support the nominee. Trump has said if its not him he will not support them. I think an argument should be made by cruz to suggest trump has unbound them. for what its worth I see more of a path for Cruz today than I did when he won texas and lost all those states in the deep south.

on edit, I just looked and most states have committed delegates and uncommitted. Its very possible indeed likely Cruz could have alot of "trump delegates" that are in the uncommitted catagory. The delegate math may not be what people think it is. I would say at this point no one actually knows.


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Originally Posted by cumminscowboy
The more educated and informed the voter is the more likely they are voting Cruz.

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Since we have several of the most educated and informed here in this thread, perhaps one of you can tell us which states Cruz will win that Romney lost?

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Originally Posted by cumminscowboy
The more educated and informed the voter is the more likely they are voting Cruz.

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Educated and informed by what they have been told. Stupid not to realize everyone sent to DC out of TX is part of the establishment.


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Cruz is about to the point where he can't win the nomination outright. If he stays in after that, and drags out the turmoil in the party, everyone will know that he's more concerned about himself than the good of the country. After that, it will be a hard sell to get a lot of people to vote republican to keep the evil democrats out of office.


That is BS. Trump and Cruz are both in it to win it. I don't see either getting the 1237. One will have to win at the convention. Kasich is the one that is wasting peoples time.


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If Cruz gets to the point where he is mathematically eliminated, and "stays in it to win it", then everything I said about him applies.

The only thing I posted that is BS is that "everyone will know". Apparently I overestimated some people's intellect.

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Originally Posted by dassa
Since we have several of the most educated and informed here in this thread, perhaps one of you can tell us which states Cruz will win that Romney lost?


Let's keep in mind Cruz would be running against Hillary or Bernie, truly terrible candidates I think Hillary is easier to beat. Trump loses Utah in the latest poll in the general so let me say this if trump can't win states easily won by Romney it doesn't matter about winnin where mitt lost

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Originally Posted by dassa
If Cruz gets to the point where he is mathematically eliminated, and "stays in it to win it", then everything I said about him applies.

The only thing I posted that is BS is that "everyone will know". Apparently I overestimated some people's intellect.

Everyone will know he's concerned about the future of the GOP and winning in November.

Apparently you haven't seen the 15 months worth of polls that show Trump losing to any Democrat. 90% of the polls show that...


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Those polls are nonsense and you know it.

Cruz is FAR more likely to get beaten hard by a Democrat than Trump.

Who cares about the GOP? Screw them.They've done nothing. Bunch of entrenched dictator/elitists.

Throw them all out.

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Originally Posted by cumminscowboy
Originally Posted by dassa
Since we have several of the most educated and informed here in this thread, perhaps one of you can tell us which states Cruz will win that Romney lost?


Let's keep in mind Cruz would be running against Hillary or Bernie, truly terrible candidates I think Hillary is easier to beat. Trump loses Utah in the latest poll in the general so let me say this if trump can't win states easily won by Romney it doesn't matter about winnin where mitt lost


Nice deflection. But at least you pretended to think you have an answer. Any other Cruz supporters wanna take a stab at it?

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The "educated voter" is a myth, a joke. The voters in this country have no clue who the hell Ted Cruz is let alone his positions on a damn thing.

I have no idea what to make of Donald Trump, I really don't. But Ted Cruz, once he becomes known in August, will be absolutely DESTROYED in November by Hillary.

ABSOLUTELY AND TOTALLY DESTROYED

Deal with it.

Trump, for better or worse, has caught the ring on the carousel, and although I remain sceptical, he, along with the right VP, remains the only one who can stop the Hillary Clinton coronation at this point.



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Cruz supporters fail to recognize that most voters see Ted Cruz as that evil man who shut down the government.

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I'm now beginning to believe the Cruz supporters are as stupid as the Bernie Sander supporters and if Cruz gets the nomination Hillary or Bernie is the next President of this country. Wake up people Cruz can't and never will win the General Election in Nov. he has too many negatives and will be crushed by the Democrat Machine. Cruz can't and won't get the support of the Reagan Democrats that Trump can bring to the election and this will mean the difference to beating Hillary or Sander in the Nov Election. Cruz supporters are living in a fantasy world if they really believe Cruz will or can win the White House.


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You posted:

1. Those polls are nonsense and you know it.

2. Cruz is FAR more likely to get beaten hard by a Democrat than Trump.

3. Who cares about the GOP? Screw them.They've done nothing. Bunch of entrenched dictator/elitists.

4. Throw them all out.

The problems with your thinking:

1. Then show us YOUR polls that show Trump not losing to any Democrat.

2. Not according to the polls. Again, show us any different ones.

3. Yeah...let's destroy the GOP and rebuild it. It'll only take 70 or 80 years of socialism/communism and helping all the things you don't want to happen.

4. Being angry is no reason to hurt yourself. Childish.

For the record, I'm voting for Trump, Cruz, Kasich, or whomever else gets the nomination no matter how they get it. I WILL NOT screw my grandchildren for the sake of a temper tantrum.

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Your grandchildren were screwed by your grandparents. Unless you have 19,000,000,000,000 bucks to give them to get the country out of debt.

And no poll this far away from the election is worth anything except to be used as propaganda. Don't fall for the propaganda.

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Originally Posted by cumminscowboy
The more RNC establishment the voter is the more likely they are voting Cruz. people running for delegates tend to be people who are RNC establishment. They always vote and often are pretty involved in the process. It easy to see why trump would underperform with the RNC establishment.



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