Whether Trump's loan was a business deal or not, I would prefer that the guy in the White House does not owe George Soros $160 million.
Technically, the business borrowed the money and it's a loan secured against property.
I'd prefer Soros be hanged by the neck until dead, but if you're going to make a point at least trying making one that is valid and factual.
So would you consider a loan with a loan shark that's collateralized a good idea? Just because it was a business deal and just because collateral is involved doesn't mean the person doesn't owe money to a very dangerous person.
If you're going to make a point, make one that is valid and factual. It's a secured BUSINESS loan, by the BUSINESS (not the person), secured by BUSINESS assets.
As for Soros; hang him.
So as long as Donald is able to hide behind a corporate front, his loans are meaningless.
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Whether Trump's loan was a business deal or not, I would prefer that the guy in the White House does not owe George Soros $160 million.
Technically, the business borrowed the money and it's a loan secured against property.
I'd prefer Soros be hanged by the neck until dead, but if you're going to make a point at least trying making one that is valid and factual.
So would you consider a loan with a loan shark that's collateralized a good idea? Just because it was a business deal and just because collateral is involved doesn't mean the person doesn't owe money to a very dangerous person.
If you're going to make a point, make one that is valid and factual. It's a secured BUSINESS loan, by the BUSINESS (not the person), secured by BUSINESS assets.
As for Soros; hang him.
So as long as Donald is able to hide behind a corporate front, his loans are meaningless.
No, but there is a significant difference between a secured business loan and an unsecured "donation" to a political candidate or PAC, just as there is a significant difference between a collateral loan against personal assets and a campaign loan or contribution. Those, again, are facts and yet again those facts just trip you up.
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
"Donald's actions are on the up and up, while everyone else is a sleazeball"
Keep pointing out your loan designations all day long.
Wrong.
I defended Cruz, who I voted for in our primary here, over his loan because the accusations were horsechit. The accusations on this loan are equally horsechit.
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
"Donald's actions are on the up and up, while everyone else is a sleazeball"
Keep pointing out your loan designations all day long.
4ager could not have laid it out for you in a more simple fashion. Are you drunk, high, stupid or a combination?
Neither drunk nor high, and clearly more intelligent and clear thinking than you on these matters. Yet again, facts matter and yet again facts elude you.
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
"Donald's actions are on the up and up, while everyone else is a sleazeball"
Keep pointing out your loan designations all day long.
4ager could not have laid it out for you in a more simple fashion. Are you drunk, high, stupid or a combination?
Neither drunk nor high, and clearly more intelligent and clear thinking than you on these matters. Yet again, facts matter and yet again facts elude you.
"Donald's actions are on the up and up, while everyone else is a sleazeball"
Keep pointing out your loan designations all day long.
4ager could not have laid it out for you in a more simple fashion. Are you drunk, high, stupid or a combination?
Neither drunk nor high, and clearly more intelligent and clear thinking than you on these matters. Yet again, facts matter and yet again facts elude you.
You might want to read that again.
I stand corrected. I saw his log in name and assumed he was swinging wildly again. Apologies, Chris.
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
Trump borrowed from Soros A. IDGAF, but we don't know the particulars, could have been a sweetheart deal or a straight up transaction. WE DONT KNOW. HE could have borrowed from someone else, so why Soros? WE DONT KNOW.
B. Cruz borrowed against HIS OWN MONEY. THAT MUCH WE KNOW. but that is your angle to crucify him and label hims as "owned", which is of course, total bullshit speculation C. Your posit that Cruz is "owned" by someone is an assumption on your part, yet your idol RP was not only "owned" (if we follow your Cruz logic he's a politician, ergo ALL are owned, but he made millions with his political schtick.
You're so consumed by this whole thing you refuse the see even the most obvious issues with Trump. They are both deeply flawed individuals who might, might, be corrupt, I dont know and you sure as hell don't either. Bottom line is I will VOTE for either one against the democrat and I know YOU by your own admission not only didnt vote in the last election, but you won't in this one either.
A. If you weren't either too lazy or too stupid to pull your own head outta your ass, you WOULD KNOW that Soros invested as one partner of many in a Trump real estate development project in Chicago. Soros invested according to his partnership share, and received distributions according to his share. That is all.
B. Bullshit. Again, you're either too stupid or too lazy to pull yor head outta your own ass. The Cruzer received a LOAN from GS, and used his and his wife's deposit account at GS for security for the LOAN. Now, WGAS if it's a loan or whatever, except that lyin Ted's BS story was "we invested every penny we had". The mark of a psychopath is that they choose to lie even when the truth would work. You probably also want to remain ignorant of the fact that the loan was illegal under campaign finance laws, since it involved an excessive donation from his wife in her half of the proceeds to the campaign, so make sure you DON'T KNOW that in the future. Some day when you grow up, we can discuss the put up job Heidi Faye was given by GS, just like the first wookie got at the hospital, and Hitlery got at the Rose law firm.
But this thread is about the Soros ownership of the Cruzer, not how much GS owns. Soros was the majority shareholder in Citibank at the time the Cruzer came on his knees for money. Ya see, nobody liked the carpetbagger Cruzer in Texas, either, so he desperately needed money for negative ads against his opponent. Problem was, he'd tapped out at GS. So, Soros gave the Cruzer between $500k and $1M (the Cruzer won't admit the exact amount) in an unsecured loan at 1.25% interest, with no payments due for 5 years.
$1 million.
Unsecured.
1.25% interest (that's $12,500/year)
No payments due for 5 years.
To a guy that was broke.
Happens all the time, I'm sure.
But remember *you* DON'T KNOW this, so it never happened.
I've linked the sources to all this info before, including the FEC disclosure form in the Cruzer's own handwriting, so you'll have to get off your lazy ass to verify everything is true.
C. That the Cruzer is owned is proven by the facts above, no assumptions needed, and RP has nothing to do with it.
You're so consumed by this whole thing you refuse to (sic) see even the most obvious issues with the Cruzer.
You'll be amazed how bright everything looks with your head outta your ass.
Trump borrowed from Soros A. IDGAF, but we don't know the particulars, could have been a sweetheart deal or a straight up transaction. WE DONT KNOW. HE could have borrowed from someone else, so why Soros? WE DONT KNOW.
B. Cruz borrowed against HIS OWN MONEY. THAT MUCH WE KNOW. but that is your angle to crucify him and label hims as "owned", which is of course, total bullshit speculation C. Your posit that Cruz is "owned" by someone is an assumption on your part, yet your idol RP was not only "owned" (if we follow your Cruz logic he's a politician, ergo ALL are owned, but he made millions with his political schtick.
You're so consumed by this whole thing you refuse the see even the most obvious issues with Trump. They are both deeply flawed individuals who might, might, be corrupt, I dont know and you sure as hell don't either. Bottom line is I will VOTE for either one against the democrat and I know YOU by your own admission not only didnt vote in the last election, but you won't in this one either.
A. If you weren't either too lazy or too stupid to pull your own head outta your ass, you WOULD KNOW that Soros invested as one partner of many in a Trump real estate development project in Chicago. Soros invested according to his partnership share, and received distributions according to his share. That is all.
B. Bullshit. Again, you're either too stupid or too lazy to pull yor head outta your own ass. The Cruzer received a LOAN from GS, and used his and his wife's deposit account at GS for security for the LOAN. Now, WGAS if it's a loan or whatever, except that lyin Ted's BS story was "we invested every penny we had". The mark of a psychopath is that they choose to lie even when the truth would work. You probably also want to remain ignorant of the fact that the loan was illegal under campaign finance laws, since it involved an excessive donation from his wife in her half of the proceeds to the campaign, so make sure you DON'T KNOW that in the future. Some day when you grow up, we can discuss the put up job Heidi Faye was given by GS, just like the first wookie got at the hospital, and Hitlery got at the Rose law firm.
But this thread is about the Soros ownership of the Cruzer, not how much GS owns. Soros was the majority shareholder in Citibank at the time the Cruzer came on his knees for money. Ya see, nobody liked the carpetbagger Cruzer in Texas, either, so he desperately needed money for negative ads against his opponent. Problem was, he'd tapped out at GS. So, Soros gave the Cruzer between $500k and $1M (the Cruzer won't admit the exact amount) in an unsecured loan at 1.25% interest, with no payments due for 5 years.
$1 million.
Unsecured.
1.25% interest (that's $12,500/year)
No payments due for 5 years.
To a guy that was broke.
Happens all the time, I'm sure.
But remember *you* DON'T KNOW this, so it never happened.
I've linked the sources to all this info before, including the FEC disclosure form in the Cruzer's own handwriting, so you'll have to get off your lazy ass to verify everything is true.
C. That the Cruzer is owned is proven by the facts above, no assumptions needed, and RP has nothing to do with it.
You're so consumed by this whole thing you refuse to (sic) see even the most obvious issues with the Cruzer.
You'll be amazed how bright everything looks with your head outta your ass.
What patriotic American would ever do business with a scumbag socialist who's life mission is to destroy America???
Seriously guys, I friggin had to ask that question?
Ever borrowed money from Bank of America? Goldman Sachs? Wachovia? The list gets damned long if you want to start down that path, and given Cruz's borrowing from Citibank and others, if you're going to paint with that broad a brush, especially in spite of facts, you'll end up covering your own messiah as well.
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
So as long as Donald is able to hide behind a corporate front, his loans are meaningless.
Exactly my point. No associations matter as long as it's for business.
Which is to say that you have no valid point because the facts stand in opposition to your position.
The Trump/Cruz cheerleaders on this site are absolutely ridiculous; all of them.
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
Technically, the business borrowed the money and it's a loan secured against property.
You don't know that unless you have access to the loan document. It could be unsecured or secured by future sales or any manner of valid consideration.
But let's say it is secured and secured by property. It's very likely that Trump owns that property and is directing the purpose of the funds loaned. That puts him in control of the funds, not the property securing the loan, and the resulting obligation for payment is his. The loan benefits Trump, not the security, if any exists.
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if you're going to make a point at least trying making one that is valid and factual.
You, too.
We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?
Immersing oneself in progressive lieberalism is no different than bathing in the sewage of Hell.
