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Yee gads, that picture made me throw up. Ugly bullets need kept in the dark... Shrap whatsamatter no plastic tips ? LOL! Bet they kill rats good!
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Yee gads, that picture made me throw up. Ugly bullets need kept in the dark... Shrap whatsamatter no plastic tips ? LOL! Bet they kill rats good! They kill everything good...
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Bob, that is one fine rifle!
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WCH: Thanks!
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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They kill everything good... Yes they do!
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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They kill everything good... Yes they do! If you get to the point where you need to invest those bullets into cash.... you know where to call.
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Cliff I understand...
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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I never get tired of hearing my dad tell stories of hunting sheep with Bitterroot Billy, Al Biesen and Gene Alford. Bill would always tell me about the bear my dad shot with Bitterroot bullets. He would talk as if he was there.
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Cliff that is a beautiful bear! Is that a M70 375? If I were going back bear hunting again, I'd be loaded with Bitterroots....no question.
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Cliff that is a beautiful bear! Is that a M70 375? If I were going back bear hunting again, I'd be loaded with Bitterroots....no question. It was a Pre-War model 70 magnum action barreled with a .338 factory model 70 barrel. My dad wanted as much case capacity as possible with 250 grain Bitterroots.
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Very cool Cliff.... If that magnum action is like mine, it holds 4 in the magazine and 1 in the pipe. That's how I'd roll if I were going to hunt big bears like that one!!!!! So the 250gr. bitterroot from a 338 win magnum works on big bruins huh? . I'm like Bob, I'd want my 375 by my side in that instance. . Even though I have a tremendous amount of respect for the 338 winny..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Here's one of my favorites. Been a safe queen but have decided it needs to go hunting. Pre 64 My 70 7 Rem mag by Len Brownell, French walnut and nicely checkered and shaped stock. Old school custom rifle and hard not to like. Tony Suprano's rifle is very cool beans ! Bob, you carry a rifle like that out in the woods and everyone thinks you are a doctor or lawyer. You'll always be a star to me though buddy.... .. Now I know why you like 7mm rem mag so much. The weight on that rifle is probably about 8 pounds as it sits Bob? Probably pretty comparable to a fwt? Is the barrel 22" or 23"? Thanks Bob, couldn't sleep because I was thinking about your rifle...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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bsa: Yes it's about 8 pounds, which was the magic number for a "mountain rifle"back in the 60's/70/s before we figured out synthetic stocks. A 270/280 used to be somewhat lighter even in wood. My wood stacked FW's are a bit lighter.
This was state of the art when it was built.Just how they did it back then when you built a rifle and stock from scratch as opposed to simply bedding a a pre made synthetic. The engraving is nice embellishment but mostly useless; the checkering is very attractive but beyond what's required to get a grip on the rifle. I guarantee its' VERY comfortable to shoot, points and hangs like a dream because the stock design and grip is outstanding.
Len Brownell was a master, even if less well known than guys like Biesen. In truth I am more a Maurice Ottmar and Len Brownell person than Biesen but we are comparing superlatives. If you can hit on an Ottmar with Burgess metal I don't know what's better.....maybe George Hoenig ? So many great ones.
I knew lots of guys who owned these rifles....one other was a lawyer, another a sports shop owner. Another a master electrician, another a construction worker. None were what i would call wealthy; they all worked.
This rifle cost me less money than my Mashburn and maybe the same as a GAP. If I had a builder like gene Simillion build it today it would cost much much more.
The best bargains for these kinds of rifles is definitely the used market. They are pretty so people don't hunt or shoot them.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Amazing rifle, Rob! That wood is to die for!
Also, really great photo Cliff. I've seen that photo before and it's a real classic!! So cool!
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Bitterrots kock the snot out of brown bears. No I take that back....Bitterroots knock the snot out of all bears.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Bitterrots kock the snot out of brown bears. No I take that back....Bitterroots knock the snot out of all bears. They are hard on pocket books too Bob.... ... If you can even find them..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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bsa: Yes they are but you are all set.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Where can I get my hands on some 30 caliber Bitterroots?
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They don't make them anymore.....
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I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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