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Since I picked up the .250-3000 I've been scouring for brass. Seems like everyone is trying to ride the profit wave into the beach. I did find one place that has 1,000 Winchester new brass and with shipping would come to $80.31 per 100. Are there 9 other .250 lovers out there needing brass? Since I'm a brass hoarder by nature I would gladly buy 1,000 but then I'd be sleeping in the yard. Not too comfortable anymore!

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How about passing common 22-250 brass over an expander?

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I've seen this mentioned but not I haven't looked into it personally. What I "heard" was they are short in OAL? and the part I don't like is the base still says 22-250. I also have a 22-250 and although the reformed new .250 savage wouldn't fit into the 22-250 chamber it still may cause a problem. I just have this thing about mis marked ammo even though I could keep it straight, I wouldn't want anyone else to have to deal with it.


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Originally Posted by savage1756
I've seen this mentioned but not I haven't looked into it personally. What I "heard" was they are short in OAL? and the part I don't like is the base still says 22-250. I also have a 22-250 and although the reformed new .250 savage wouldn't fit into the 22-250 chamber it still may cause a problem. I just have this thing about mis marked ammo even though I could keep it straight, I wouldn't want anyone else to have to deal with it.



PRECISELY why I refuse to go that route as well.


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Guys you need to look for brass its around, just not new and on the shelves! everbody saying theres No 35 rem ammo, I could have bought a pickup load this winter! the smaller gun shows, smaller gun shops i bought 12 loaded 375 win and 3 brass for $5.00 at a small gun show, got talking to the guy and he said he had more at home , gave me his # and said to call next week, took a few calls to go meet him, but ended up getting 44 brass and a box of Horndary 220 bullets with 84 bullets in it! $26.00 bucks! he had 250-3000 stuff but I didnt need it! thinking of starting a Co. dealing with old brass and bullets! Stuff is out there you just have to hunt for it!


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Originally Posted by saddlering
Guys you need to look for brass its around, just not new and on the shelves! everbody saying theres No 35 rem ammo, I could have bought a pickup load this winter! the smaller gun shows, smaller gun shops i bought 12 loaded 375 win and 3 brass for $5.00 at a small gun show, got talking to the guy and he said he had more at home , gave me his # and said to call next week, took a few calls to go meet him, but ended up getting 44 brass and a box of Horndary 220 bullets with 84 bullets in it! $26.00 bucks! he had 250-3000 stuff but I didnt need it! thinking of starting a Co. dealing with old brass and bullets! Stuff is out there you just have to hunt for it!


There was a BOATLOAD of 35 Rem, 250 Sav AND .303 sav in Syracuse this last weekend.


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I was buying ammo at $0.50-$0.75 per piece at Tulsa, couldn't pass it up considering the price of new brass alone is that high. Most stuff was priced higher, but I found 7 boxes.


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I have been routinely re-forming cartridges out of other sizes for longer than some folks here have been alive. Never once during all those thousands of rounds did I ever get confused or have a mishap. I figure if a guy is savvy enough to be allowed near a reloading bench, then he should be savvy enough not to mix up his ammo by blithely going by headstamps. It ain't rocket science!

For example: I consider '06 brass to be merely a "parent" case out of which a host of different cases can be made- 8x57's, 7x57's, .270's, .280's, etc., etc.

As long as they keep making .22-250's and/or .300's no man should ever go begging for .250's. Heck, without looking and measuring I bet .250's can be made out of .243's in a pinch. Certainly out of .308's and '06's if one were desperate enough. Some added steps will be incurred, and neck reaming/turning, and re-adjusting the powder charge for different internal capacities- but hey, it beats not shooting a gun because you can't find brass/ammo.

The same goes for .223 brass. A .222 shooter can laugh the whole way to the range if they ever quit making his brass because we won't run out of .223 brass any time soon.

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Originally Posted by gnoahhh
I have been routinely re-forming cartridges out of other sizes for longer than some folks here have been alive. Never once during all those thousands of rounds did I ever get confused or have a mishap. I figure if a guy is savvy enough to be allowed near a reloading bench, then he should be savvy enough not to mix up his ammo by blithely going by headstamps. It ain't rocket science!

For example: I consider '06 brass to be merely a "parent" case out of which a host of different cases can be made- 8x57's, 7x57's, .270's, .280's, etc., etc.

As long as they keep making .22-250's and/or .300's no man should ever go begging for .250's. Heck, without looking and measuring I bet .250's can be made out of .243's in a pinch. Certainly out of .308's and '06's if one were desperate enough. Some added steps will be incurred, and neck reaming/turning, and re-adjusting the powder charge for different internal capacities- but hey, it beats not shooting a gun because you can't find brass/ammo.

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What "others"? Do you let people have free and easy access to your ammo? Afraid about others mis-applying your ammo after you're gone? Unless you get struck by lightning on the way home tonight you will have time to dispose of it if you feel the need.


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What do you guys think about used gun show brass that's been through a stainless cleaning process and now looks perfect? I'd rather it was left "in the raw" to help assess it's usefulness and # of firings. When I see perfectly polished used brass for sale I get nothing, no information to help me at all.


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Depends on what it is. If it's a rare cartridge that I need (and I can't make it out of something else) and the price is right, I take a chance on it. Example: anything of the basic .25-20 Single Shot series from which I form .22 Maximum Lovells. .25-20SS, .22-3000, R2 Lovell, .22 Max Lovell- none of which can be made from anything but .25-20SS basic brass. (Well, you can do it out of .223 brass but it is frightfully complicated and time consuming and even I'm not that much of a masochist to go that route if I can help it! smile )


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I never trust the headstamp on a cartridge.. because I handload...

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22-250 brass has an advantage, it's usually more uniform than 250 brass. Of course if we're shooting deer inside 200 yards with a lever gun then it's probably moot.

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I'm also not worried about myself but if my wife, kids, grandkids had to deal with it it might be a problem. They hunt with me and shoot but none have gotten to the level of reloading that I think I'm at. They just don't have the interest in that part of the firearms hobby. I guess I could leave a video for them if something happened!

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I use a Dremel tool to grind off the offending headstamp. I grind off the "22-", which leaves the "250" I have not gotten confused yet.

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Originally Posted by Joel6180
I use a Dremel tool to grind off the offending headstamp. I grind off the "22-", which leaves the "250" I have not gotten confused yet.


Your utterly practical approach has earned you a nomination into the Tinkerbell Club. This is the kind of thinking that exemplifies the Tinkerbell Spirit. Kudos.


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I recently had a Shaw 250 Savage barrel screwed onto a Savage Axis action. I only had about 6 pieces of W-W 250 Savage brass on hand, so I necked up some R-P 22-250 brass. Later, I bought a package of Hornady 250 Savage brass from Natchez, I think. All three different types of brass work just fine. Accuracy with this inexpensive barrel is incredible! I think Mule Deer prefers good 22-250 brass necked up to so-so 250 Savage brass for this application. Use the 22-250 stuff and don't worry.


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Simple fix and yet it eluded me. DOH! dremel off the 22. I think I need to retire and focus on hunting groundhogs and whitetail deer!.

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The 22-250 thing is all well and good as long as you have access to cheap brass, preferably free from a deep pocketed varminter friend. But lately with Remington and Winchester not selling reloading components we're at the mercy of the smaller brass suppliers. Hornady brass has now filled the shelves of my local retailers and the price for 250 brass is the same as 22-250!? In the long run we may all be forced to resize 22-250 brass but as long as I can get 250 brass I'll take it, I just like having the correct head-stamp without the dremel.

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