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Just in time for the upcoming Presidential election the great American terry mcauliffe has given 206,000 felons the right to vote for "the hildabeast" in the upcoming Presidential election! WTF! The Republicans better get on this issue IMMEDIATELY before it spreads or they will in effect forfeit all future elections! Link: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/terry-mcauliffe-gop-felons-voting-222365#ixzz46l9v4XQzJudas Priest, WHAT is this country coming to? Sheesh. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
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Felons always vote for other felons.
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Just in time for the upcoming Presidential election the great American terry mcauliffe has given 206,000 felons the right to vote for "the hildabeast" in the upcoming Presidential election! WTF! The Republicans better get on this issue IMMEDIATELY before it spreads or they will in effect forfeit all future elections! Link: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/terry-mcauliffe-gop-felons-voting-222365#ixzz46l9v4XQzJudas Priest, WHAT is this country coming to? Sheesh. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy On the larger point, McAwful got this correct. Do your time and be out and off any probation and parole, and full restoration of rights is warranted. Too dangerous to have a full slate of rights is too dangerous to be out. However, McAwful did not do a full restoration. 2A restrictions remain. The Rs should fix that. This is something the Rs could have, and should have, done years ago. They choose not to do so, and forfeit the advantage. Then again, the OP would have to have the intelligence and cognitive ability to comprehend this, and the evidence is considerable that he lacks it now and will always.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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On the larger point, McAwful got this correct. Do your time and be out and off any probation and parole, and full restoration of rights is warranted. Too dangerous to have a full slate of rights is too dangerous to be out.
However, McAwful did not do a full restoration. 2A restrictions remain. The Rs should fix that.
This is something the Rs could have, and should have, done years ago. They choose not to do so, and forfeit the advantage.
Then again, the OP would have to have the intelligence and cognitive ability to comprehend this, and the evidence is considerable that he lacks it now and will always.
I've always found it odd that a felony conviction could permanently forfeit one's right to vote. It's as if felons, who've served out their sentences, cease to be citizens. I'm surprised this issue isn't addressed in Federal Court. It's certainly worthy of discussion.
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Kingston: So you are saying that rapists, murderers, hard drug sellers, child molesters and their ilk are "qualified" to vote and decide who and how this country is run by, its taxes spent and who gets more and more welfare? This "issue" has been working pretty well for many many decades and I for one think upstanding citizens (which is not really that hard to be!) should be this nations voters! Convicted felons (and that's getting harder and harder to become under hussein obama!) should NOT be making decisions for those of us who curtail our urges, emotions and behaviors to remain felony free. If you like felons so much go move into a prison or invite a batch of ex-cons to live in your home with YOUR family! mcaullifes actions are not "humanitarian" they are purely political! Sheesh. Voting rights aren't the ONLY rights felons loose - and again that has been the law for many, many decades - and again that has been working pretty well. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
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Why not? Rapists, murderers, drug sellers and child molesters are in office.
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I heard about this this morning. Unbelievable.
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Just in time for the upcoming Presidential election the great American terry mcauliffe has given 206,000 felons the right to vote for "the hildabeast" in the upcoming Presidential election! WTF! The Republicans better get on this issue IMMEDIATELY before it spreads or they will in effect forfeit all future elections! Link: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/terry-mcauliffe-gop-felons-voting-222365#ixzz46l9v4XQzJudas Priest, WHAT is this country coming to? Sheesh. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy On the larger point, McAwful got this correct. Do your time and be out and off any probation and parole, and full restoration of rights is warranted. Too dangerous to have a full slate of rights is too dangerous to be out. However, McAwful did not do a full restoration. 2A restrictions remain. The Rs should fix that. This is something the Rs could have, and should have, done years ago. They choose not to do so, and forfeit the advantage. Then again, the OP would have to have the intelligence and cognitive ability to comprehend this, and the evidence is considerable that he lacks it now and will always. And I agree with that. Either you get them all back or none at all. Just like the age of 18, you are now an adult but you aren't allowed everything a 21 year old etc can have. I've always thought that was BS. Pick an age, but when someone is an adult, they are allowed to do/buy anything any other adult can.
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Felons always vote for other felons. Yep, they vote for Democrats.
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Kingston: So you are saying that rapists, murderers, hard drug sellers, child molesters and their ilk are "qualified" to vote and decide who and how this country is run by, its taxes spent and who gets more and more welfare? This "issue" has been working pretty well for many many decades and I for one think upstanding citizens (which is not really that hard to be!) should be this nations voters! Convicted felons (and that's getting harder and harder to become under hussein obama!) should NOT be making decisions for those of us who curtail our urges, emotions and behaviors to remain felony free. If you like felons so much go move into a prison or invite a batch of ex-cons to live in your home with YOUR family! mcaullifes actions are not "humanitarian" they are purely political! Sheesh. Voting rights aren't the ONLY rights felons loose - and again that has been the law for many, many decades - and again that has been working pretty well. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy No surprise that you don't get it; you've never shown the ability to actually think nor the capacity for understanding what rights are and are not. If they are too dangerous to be allowed OUT with a full set of rights, then keep them IN. If they are OUT, and off probation/parole, then they've served their time and deserve a FULL set of rights restored. You still won't get it, but that comes as no surprise.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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F'in amazing, this is aimed at one thing and one thing only, making certain that a 'swing state' stays in play and now favors HRC. Nothing else, or as mentioned above they would have received more than just the right to vote back.
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On the larger point, McAwful got this correct. Do your time and be out and off any probation and parole, and full restoration of rights is warranted. Too dangerous to have a full slate of rights is too dangerous to be out.
However, McAwful did not do a full restoration. 2A restrictions remain. The Rs should fix that.
This is something the Rs could have, and should have, done years ago. They choose not to do so, and forfeit the advantage.
Then again, the OP would have to have the intelligence and cognitive ability to comprehend this, and the evidence is considerable that he lacks it now and will always.
I've always found it odd that a felony conviction could permanently forfeit one's right to vote.
It's as if felons, who've served out their sentences, cease to be citizens. I'm surprised this issue isn't addressed in Federal Court. It's certainly worthy of discussion. From my perspective that is one of the very few American oddities that truly surprised me...particularly from a people that purport to be free. As the other Gentleman said...if they are too bad to be out then keep them in, otherwise let them be.
These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
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F'in amazing, this is aimed at one thing and one thing only, making certain that a 'swing state' stays in play and now favors HRC. Nothing else, or as mentioned above they would have received more than just the right to vote back. The VA GOP had YEARS to do something about this. Have they EVER floated a full restoration of rights bill or concept? No. Have they EVER considered defanging a Governor's ability to grant blanket deals like this? No. If you're going to leave advantages, opportunities, and weapons available to your adversaries, don't bitch and complain when they are used against you.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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So they're as ball-less as is the national congress....
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So they're as ball-less as is the national congress.... I doubt that it's truly ball-less. They just don't think and they sure as Hell don't act.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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Could backfire on Hitlary if publicized right. So how many of these Virginia Felons became Felons because of Bill Clinton's signing of a "Get Tough on Crime" bill in 94'? https://www.ncjrs.gov/txtfiles/billfs.txt
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So they're as ball-less as is the national congress.... I doubt that it's truly ball-less. They just don't think and they sure as Hell don't act. They could have passed legislation? Or not 'completely' have gone into recess?
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So they're as ball-less as is the national congress.... I doubt that it's truly ball-less. They just don't think and they sure as Hell don't act. They could have passed legislation? Or not 'completely' have gone into recess? Sure. They could have restricted the ability of a governor to act in this manner through legislation. Or, they could have passed legislation that gave FULL restoration of rights (a truly conservative concept) upon release from prison and probation/parole. Or, possibly several other things. Instead, they have done and will do nothing.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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