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Doh! Missed that.  Back to my previously scheduled nap. 
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Doh! Missed that. Back to my previously scheduled nap. Not your fault Rolly has ADD Tom.
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Funny...I get tired of your stuff real quick. Mostly useless ankle biting nonsense. Ankle biting? That's a new one. At least it's better than ankle-grabbing.
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Who digs up a thread that is 8 years old??
As an aside, I have an acquaintance that has built a whole bunch of 270AIs and taken them to Africa on cull hunts. He can hunt with (and does) any caliber there is yet keeps going back to the 270AI. He spends well into 6 figures a year on guns and loves this one the most!
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There was another thread maybe 3-4 years ago, where a guy was going to Africa for a year, as I recall to teach school. He wanted to take a practical plains game rifle, as he couldn't afford to hunt any expensive game. He was trying to decide if he should buy a Mark X Mauser .30-06, and if so what he should do to the rifle as far as ammo, modifications, scope, etc. He wasn't exactly a RCRL (Real Campfire Rifle Loony) but knew some stuff.
Of course, the thread went on and on, with RCRL's arguing back and forth, and everybody failed to notice that somewhere along about Post 1000 the guy said he'd bought the rifle and mounted a scope, it shot well, and he was headed to Africa. The thread went on and on and on., being revived at least once long after he would have been back from his year over there.
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There was another thread maybe 3-4 years ago, where a guy was going to Africa for a year, as I recall to teach school. He wanted to take a practical plains game rifle, as he couldn't afford to hunt any expensive game. He was trying to decide if he should buy a Mark X Mauser .30-06, and if so what he should do to the rifle as far as ammo, modifications, scope, etc. He wasn't exactly a RCRL (Real Campfire Rifle Loony) but knew some stuff.
Of course, the thread went on and on, with RCRL's arguing back and forth, and everybody failed to notice that somewhere along about Post 1000 the guy said he'd bought the rifle and mounted a scope, it shot well, and he was headed to Africa. The thread went on and on and on., being revived at least once long after he would have been back from his year over there. 
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..... everybody failed to notice that somewhere along about Post 1000 the guy said he'd bought the rifle and mounted a scope, it shot well, and he was headed to Africa. The thread went on and on and on., being revived at least once long after he would have been back from his year over there. Dang, I wanted to hear more about the pitfalls of the 280 AI, and now you've ruined it.
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Sorry!
How about this: Am in the final stages of putting together a real 700 "parts gun" in .280 AI. It involved a little more than the standard bolting on a stock and screwing on a barrel, because the action didn't have a bolt, and when I did scrounge a bolt from a gunsmith friend, it didn't have anything on or inside it except the extractor. Plus, the bolt was for a very early 700, without the guide-rib, but the action had the guide-rib. Oh, and I had to take the old (and pitted) barrel off the action....
How's that for pitfalls? And the thing still isn't quite done. But it will be a real deal, unless you count my "gunsmithing" time.
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When you could save yourself some time and money if instead of AI-ing a .270Win., just get 50 feet closer.
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Sorry!
How about this: Am in the final stages of putting together a real 700 "parts gun" in .280 AI. It involved a little more than the standard bolting on a stock and screwing on a barrel, because the action didn't have a bolt, and when I did scrounge a bolt from a gunsmith friend, it didn't have anything on or inside it except the extractor. Plus, the bolt was for a very early 700, without the guide-rib, but the action had the guide-rib. Oh, and I had to take the old (and pitted) barrel off the action....
How's that for pitfalls? And the thing still isn't quite done. But it will be a real deal, unless you count my "gunsmithing" time. The reason I like the 280AI has more to do with the Kimber 84L platform than anything else. Melvin can probably make a 7RM that light, and that feels that good, but not many others can. The performance is close enough to the 7RM to satisfy me, in a rifle that handles and feels that good. Obviously, you had a different objective MD  Edit: yes, I have a 7RM and a 270 too
Last edited by WhelenAway; 05/05/16. Reason: also like 7RM and 270
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Yeah, I did. The barrel is a Douglas stainless, chambered by the late Mickey Coleman. I knew Micky pretty well, and always meant to have him build me a rifle, but then it was too late. So I'm putting the rifle together around the barrel. I really don't care much about the .280 AI one way or the other, but wanted a barrel marked Coleman Rifles.
For a really light, accurate rifle I have a NULA .30-06, otherwise known as the .280 AI Really Improved.
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Thats cool a Mickey Memorial Rifle. I like it.
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For a really light, accurate rifle I have a NULA .30-06, otherwise known as the .280 AI Really Improved. It's the original, a jack of all trades . . . . .
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I understand that there is no magical velocity gain in the 280ai. It holds a slight amount more powder than the 280 Rem and is commonly loaded to higher pressures. As a result it produces slightly higher velocities for the same bullet. Many think that the 280ai is more accurate than the 280 Rem when pushed to near max pressure. Is this an urban myth or could it often be the case?
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It might often be the case that an AI is built with a custom barrel, and precision follows.
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Here's one of those temperamental 7 Rem Mags that are so hard for people to get to shoot. And with those inaccurate Partitions no less. ![[Linked Image]](http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z395/BobinNH1/20140413_162301.jpg)
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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There are some advantages to an improved cartridge beyond velocity. There are equally as many disadvantages. In my limited experience with a few 260 Remingtons, in every case they became noticeably more accurate with the rechamber job. Brass seemingly lasts forever but there is that tick-in-the-armpit called fire-forming.
Never owned a 270AI but it should be just fine.
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Does AI'ing a .270 make it more, or less, gay?
I say more
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For a really light, accurate rifle I have a NULA .30-06, otherwise known as the .280 AI Really Improved. Gotta love that - 110 years old and still the standard!
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Here's one of those temperamental 7 Rem Mags that are so hard for people to get to shoot. And with those inaccurate Partitions no less. Bob,sell that AWFUL shooting 7mm RM!
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