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Small ring 7mm-08 #11185930 05/14/16
Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 13,958 Likes: 4 PA moosemike OP Campfire Outfitter
OP moosemike Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 13,958 Likes: 4 PA	I bought a Mauser actioned 7mm-08. I have no clue which Mauser action because it has no thumb slot for stripper clips (like a 93) but it has a round bolt (like a 95) instead of a square bottom one like the earlier ones. It also cocks on opening like a 98. Anyway , I was told by a few posters on here that this rifle is not safe to shoot and can't handle the cartridge. I'm happy to report that isn't so. After mounting a 6x36 Leupold I bought Winchester ballistic silvertips and not only is there no pressure signs but it's darn accurate!

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Re: Small ring 7mm-08 moosemike #11185936 05/14/16
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efw Campfire Ranger E Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 29,661 Likes: 5 Mi.	What's it say on the top of the from ring and on the left side rail? Could it be a Mexican small ring 98? Or a Swede converted to cock on open? I'd feel perfectly comfortable running a 7-08 in either of those. Looks like a nice rig to me; can't argue w/ those results! Is that a Boyds Classic w/ their laser checkering?

Re: Small ring 7mm-08 moosemike #11185951 05/14/16
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OP moosemike Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 13,958 Likes: 4 PA	It's a Bishop stock and the receiver has been scrubbed of markings save the serial number.

Re: Small ring 7mm-08 moosemike #11185987 05/14/16
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OP moosemike Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 13,958 Likes: 4 PA	h

Re: Small ring 7mm-08 moosemike #11186005 05/14/16
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patbrennan Campfire Regular P Joined: May 2004 Posts: 2,676 BC	Nice looking rig there.

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Re: Small ring 7mm-08 moosemike #11186057 05/14/16
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OP moosemike Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 13,958 Likes: 4 PA	Thanks!

Re: Small ring 7mm-08 moosemike #11186111 05/14/16
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Pappy348 Campfire Ranger Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 28,861 Likes: 12 West of the Blue Ridge	MM, time will tell if at rifle's safe or not. I don't think you'd see pressure signs from shooting factory ammo, but over time the lugs might set back and alter the headspace. The problem with a rifle like that is that you just don't know the details of what was done to it. If the action is soft, you may have trouble down the road. I would have the action tested for hardness by a comptent gunsmith, or at the very least limit it to low pressure handloads as was discussed in your earlier thread. Nobody wants to kill your buzz, just prevent you from having an "incident". What fresh Hell is this?

Re: Small ring 7mm-08 Pappy348 #11186334 05/15/16
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OP moosemike Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 13,958 Likes: 4 PA	I agree Pappy and I've already decided at the range it will be fed Hornady Custom Lite and the Ballistic Silvertips will be for hunting only.

Re: Small ring 7mm-08 moosemike #11186402 05/15/16
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Jlin222 Campfire Member J Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 367 NM	A closer picture of the action might help identify it, but the bolt shroud looks like a pre-98. The 98 Mauser bolt shroud has a flange at the front which helps deflect gas in the event of a blown primer, and it also has a step down to a smaller diameter in the middle. Your Mauser doesn't appear to have either of those, so it is likely an earlier model than the 98. The other way to tell a 98 from an earlier Mauser is the 98 has a third locking lug near the root of the bolt handle, which is lacking in earlier models. The SAAMI pressure specs for the 7mm-08 is listed as 61,000 psi which is a bit on the high side for a pre-98 Mauser. Last edited by Jlin222; 05/15/16.

Re: Small ring 7mm-08 Jlin222 #11186652 05/15/16
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OP moosemike Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 13,958 Likes: 4 PA	No, it doesn't have the third lug or the guide rib and it doesn't have a gas escape hole in the side of the front ring. I know it is pre 98.

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Re: Small ring 7mm-08 moosemike #11186810 05/15/16
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Re: Small ring 7mm-08 moosemike #11187232 05/15/16
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OP moosemike Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 13,958 Likes: 4 PA	I'm in the middle of a tung oil refinish of the stock.

Re: Small ring 7mm-08 moosemike #11190032 05/16/16
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bangeye Campfire Tracker B Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,891 Edge of nowhere	Nice looking rifle and some one has spent some time on it. As to a 7mm-08 in a a pre 98 series mauser if it was mine I would simply reload it to std pressure 7x57 levels i.e. not +p and go hunting. A 139 gr or 154 gr Hornady at 2600fps and 2500 fps respectively will take a lot of game.

Re: Small ring 7mm-08 moosemike #11190446 05/17/16
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PatagoniaHunter Campfire Regular P Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 575 Likes: 1 BARILOCHE CITY, RIO NEGRO PROV...	Hi moosemike, The action is one from a Chilean M1895 Mauser rifle. It is so because the safety lug behind the bolt handle. The M1895 Chilean is the only one of the pre-98 Mausers that have this little safety lug. Nice rifle. I have one of the few M1893 Original Sporting Rifle made by DWM. The original 7x57 rifle by the way. I use it, since 1972, with full power 7x57 loads. At similar pressures of the factory 7-08 Rem. No problem at all. A check I would do is to see the contact of the bolt locking lugs with their shoulders in the front ring. If this contact is even and around 70% between both surfaces, I see no problem to use the rifle with factory 7-08 Rem cartridges. If you want to be sure, check the headspace at 50, and 100 fired factory rounds. I think there would be no surprices... Good luck!

Re: Small ring 7mm-08 moosemike #11190449 05/17/16
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PatagoniaHunter Campfire Regular P Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 575 Likes: 1 BARILOCHE CITY, RIO NEGRO PROV...	Ah! The rifle seems to have a speedlock firing pin...

Re: Small ring 7mm-08 PatagoniaHunter #11190511 05/17/16
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OP moosemike Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 13,958 Likes: 4 PA	Originally Posted by PatagoniaHunter Ah! The rifle seems to have a speedlock firing pin... Is that good? :-)

Re: Small ring 7mm-08 PatagoniaHunter #11190515 05/17/16
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OP moosemike Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 13,958 Likes: 4 PA	Originally Posted by PatagoniaHunter Hi moosemike, The action is one from a Chilean M1895 Mauser rifle. It is so because the safety lug behind the bolt handle. The M1895 Chilean is the only one of the pre-98 Mausers that have this little safety lug. Nice rifle. I have one of the few M1893 Original Sporting Rifle made by DWM. The original 7x57 rifle by the way. I use it, since 1972, with full power 7x57 loads. At similar pressures of the factory 7-08 Rem. No problem at all. A check I would do is to see the contact of the bolt locking lugs with their shoulders in the front ring. If this contact is even and around 70% between both surfaces, I see no problem to use the rifle with factory 7-08 Rem cartridges. If you want to be sure, check the headspace at 50, and 100 fired factory rounds. I think there would be no surprices... Good luck! Did they make 95's without the thumb slot for stripper clips?

Re: Small ring 7mm-08 moosemike #11190709 05/17/16
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PatagoniaHunter Campfire Regular P Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 575 Likes: 1 BARILOCHE CITY, RIO NEGRO PROV...	Yes! To both questions.

Re: Small ring 7mm-08 moosemike #11193790 05/18/16
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powdr Campfire Outfitter P Joined: May 2005 Posts: 9,611 Central Texas	I have a Brazilian 1894 w/no thumb cut. Cock on opening w/two position Win safety. It's a 250Improved and I've loaded it pretty warm for over 20years now. powdr

Re: Small ring 7mm-08 moosemike #11194487 05/19/16
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Deflagrate Campfire Regular D Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 623 Gone	Nice rifle! Similar to powdr, I've a Swedish 96 I rebarreled to 257 Roberts with the Dayton Traister Cock on Open kit. I don't load to +P presssures, just standard Hodgdon and Sierra book max of 46k CUP or about 51k psi, depending on the how they took their pressure. Warm for a standard 257 Roberts though, and that's plenty. The Cock on Open really cuts the lock time down and that is a good thing when shooting offhand hunting vice a solid rest at the range.

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