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About 8 years ago, I discovered fishing in South America. It gives me all the adventure I need, The costs, I can do 4-5 trips to Brazil, Guyana or Suriname for the price of a single Buffalo hunt in Zimbabwe. There is no taxidermy, no trophy fees, no dipping and shipping. The weather is nice all the time. three hours time difference from Arizona (no jet lag) .
So I assume you brought every fish back and is stuck on your wall somewhere. Please post some pics. If you didn't you're an egocentric, unethical sportsman.
It is irrelevant what you think. What matters is the TRUTH.
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About 8 years ago, I discovered fishing in South America. It gives me all the adventure I need, The costs, I can do 4-5 trips to Brazil, Guyana or Suriname for the price of a single Buffalo hunt in Zimbabwe. There is no taxidermy, no trophy fees, no dipping and shipping. The weather is nice all the time. three hours time difference from Arizona (no jet lag) .
So I assume you brought every fish back and is stuck on your wall somewhere. Please post some pics. If you didn't you're an egocentric, unethical sportsman. ![[Linked Image]](http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy282/chipolopolo/IMG_0620_zpsok2xcf5f.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy282/chipolopolo/DSC00044_zps0nmixsvq.jpg) It's called catch and release.
Last edited by Chipolopolo; 05/09/16.
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If you think putting up more pictures is the way forward, carry on. If you think that's what I said, you should improve your reading comprehension. I said we shouldn't be afraid to. Come on Smokepole, That was clearly (I thought) meant to read as "you" the collective. I understood your comment. I'm not afraid to post pictures either, I just know better. I can look back at my African hunting and feel pretty comfortable in knowing I did pretty much all I wanted to do. With Ethiopia being the exception. When I did Tanzania in October, I said to myself, several times, this is getting ridiculously complex. The gun permitting, the airlines gun policies, dealing with curt and rude TSA and Immigration officers. About 8 years ago, I discovered fishing in South America. It gives me all the adventure I need, The costs, I can do 4-5 trips to Brazil, Guyana or Suriname for the price of a single Buffalo hunt in Zimbabwe. There is no taxidermy, no trophy fees, no dipping and shipping. The weather is nice all the time. three hours time difference from Arizona (no jet lag) . I also appreciate the fact that my days are mine. I have an Indian boat driver, who just goes where I ask him to go. It's all on me. My success or failure is mine an mine alone. Point being, many of us, myself included consider ourselves sportsman first, hunter or fisherman it doesn't matter to me, I'm an outdoorsman. I never thought there would come a time in my lifetime that I would see the sunset of hunting in Africa. As Mike70560 states, without the iconic species being hunted, the rest don't stand a chance in wild Africa. There will likely always be game farms for us to hunt if thats what we desire. Not sure what all that has to do with posting photos, but if you don't want to, then don't. But don't try to tell me that I can't. Not trying to tell you what to do. It's called a discussion. Do as you will. What it has to do with posting photos is, this last episode with the Dentist and Cecil has tipped the critical mass of effort/rewards on hunting to a point that many,many sportsman are looking elsewhere for adventure. There is a thread on another forum right now. It is discussing how African hunting has become so expensive and complicated, many are pulling the plug.
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About 8 years ago, I discovered fishing in South America. It gives me all the adventure I need, The costs, I can do 4-5 trips to Brazil, Guyana or Suriname for the price of a single Buffalo hunt in Zimbabwe. There is no taxidermy, no trophy fees, no dipping and shipping. The weather is nice all the time. three hours time difference from Arizona (no jet lag) .
So I assume you brought every fish back and is stuck on your wall somewhere. Please post some pics. If you didn't you're an egocentric, unethical sportsman. It's called catch and release. You unethical slob........
It is irrelevant what you think. What matters is the TRUTH.
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Egocentric, Unethical slob, Noted.
What amuses me with this forum. There is precious little posting in this sub-forum. This thread, as of right now, has 63 posts and over 3,000 views, since Friday.
There are only a few on the front page that have more and those have been up for weeks or months. There are a few forum "cool kids" here. They seem to set the tone.
It's obvious to me, that someone with real world experience, that has some views contrary isn't really welcome here. So, that said, I won't bother you or any of the other forum superstars any longer.
You know what they say when the name calling starts eh? You've lost the argument.
Cheers and good hunting.
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Chip, you keep bringing up Cecil. The issue there was not that the "Hunter" posted a photo. It was the backstory.
A wise man is frequently humbled.
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Save the money for mounting and shipping, towards another trip
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Rather than hijack somebodies thread, I figured I'd start this as its own thread.
I would like to know this forums feelings about going to Africa, whacking a few animals and leaving everything behind.
Further, using those savings of not dipping, shipping, mounting everything to go back sooner?
Steve I see absolutely no issue with that. To suggest that someone is not ethical because they choose not to deal with all the hassle and expense is ludicrous. I am going on my first trip to Africa in a little over a month. I do not have any set plans as to what I will do with any of the animals I have successfully hunted. The hunt and the experience will determine what will get mounted, turned into a rug, European, or stays on continent. I am not going over there with a grocery list that needs to be checked off, or a tape measure. I am going over with the attitude that I am getting to experience Africa and will gratefully accept whatever the hunt brings. Taxidermy of our hunts are special to us in this house and each bring back memories of special or challenging hunts, and lifetime experiences. I am much more concerned about your language of "whacking critters". That tells much about your hunting mentality regardless of what you do after they are "whacked"
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If you ain't bringing back ALL the meat to eat, you're a slob.
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It's obviously up to the individual. No wrong answer IMO.
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If you ain't bringing back ALL the meat to eat, you're a slob. Yeah, I'll tough it out being a slob then.  Really looking forward to the evening meals though.  EdM, you are spot on.
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It's obviously up to the individual. No wrong answer IMO. Concur..
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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