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Re: Pac Nor msinc #11203352 05/23/16
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 44,820 M mathman Campfire 'Bwana
mathman Campfire 'Bwana M Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 44,820	Describing polygonal rifling in such a way that it isn't actually polygonal is like describing this as a red car:

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Re: Pac Nor mathman #11203417 05/23/16
Joined: May 2016 Posts: 169 M msinc Campfire Member
msinc Campfire Member M Joined: May 2016 Posts: 169	Originally Posted by mathman Describing polygonal rifling in such a way that it isn't actually polygonal is like describing this as a red car: Well....you'll just have to find a way to get over it...or not. You could also cry to Glock, Steyr, Kahr and all the other polygonal barrels out there with no corners or flats. I doubt they will care any more than I do.

Re: Pac Nor msinc #11203425 05/23/16
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 44,820 M mathman Campfire 'Bwana
mathman Campfire 'Bwana M Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 44,820	It's all good. I enjoy driving my Chevy Mustang.

Re: Pac Nor Otter6 #11203427 05/23/16
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 22,274 Back in Texas, for good! tex_n_cal Campfire Ranger
tex_n_cal Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 22,274 Back in Texas, for good!	I had Pac Nor rebarrel a Kimber 7mm-08 Montana. Factory dupe length and contour, still in 7mm-08, but 1 in 9" polygonal rifling. Not cheap but they did a wonderful job, and now it is a very accurate, very unfussy rifle. I also appreciate how neatly they mark the chambering on their barrels. To me that's an obvious sign of quality work. "...the designer of the .270 Ingwe cartridge!..."

Re: Pac Nor Otter6 #11203448 05/23/16
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 13,093 Kodiak & AZ D dennisinaz Campfire Outfitter
dennisinaz Campfire Outfitter D Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 13,093 Kodiak & AZ	Only problem with Pac Nor is how long you have to wait to get one. I can get barrels elsewhere in 1-3 weeks and don't see the point in waiting. Unless you are shooting competitive benchrest, pretty much all the mainstream barrel makers will supply you a barrel of better accuracy than most sporter rifles will shoot anyway. Never had a bad Pac Nor- not dissing them, just referencing how long the wait is. NRA Benefactor Member Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't.

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Re: Pac Nor tex_n_cal #11203456 05/23/16
Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 12,153 Mississippi C Crow hunter Campfire Outfitter
Crow hunter Campfire Outfitter C Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 12,153 Mississippi	Originally Posted by tex_n_cal I also appreciate how neatly they mark the chambering on their barrels. To me that's an obvious sign of quality work. Ha! I like to think I was responsible for that. About 10 years ago I raised hell on these forums about getting my pac-nor barreled 257 roberts back with the chambering marked with a stamp, a stamp that wasn't even aligned correctly. It looked like chit to put it mildly. I went on for a month or so about that, it irked me to spend $500 (at the time) and get back a barrel that looked like it'd been stamped by a third grader. A few months later Pac-Nor started engraving the chambering. So I'm taking credit for them fixing that, whether or not it's actually true.

Re: Pac Nor Otter6 #11203942 05/23/16
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 22,274 Back in Texas, for good! tex_n_cal Campfire Ranger
tex_n_cal Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 22,274 Back in Texas, for good!	took about 4 months to get mine done, a turnkey job. Lots of smiths refuse to work on Montanas. It was also a nonstandard barrel, matching the factory length & contour. Last edited by tex_n_cal; 05/23/16. "...the designer of the .270 Ingwe cartridge!..."

Re: Pac Nor tex_n_cal #11204121 05/24/16
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 28,853 Grants Pass,OR Ringman Campfire Ranger
Ringman Campfire Ranger Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 28,853 Grants Pass,OR	Quote took about 4 months to get mine done, a turnkey job. Lots of smiths refuse to work on Montanas. It was also a nonstandard barrel, matching the factory length & contour. My experience also. I called every barrel company I could find trying to get one that would match the extremely light contour of the six lug Weatherby. Not only would they match it they would make it 26" instead of 24". Below is a photo of three three shot groups at 100 yards with my .257SLR. One can see the 1" grid printed on the other side of the paper. Edited to add: They also fluted the barrel. Last edited by Ringman; 05/24/16. "Only Christ is the fullness of God's revelation." Everyday Hunter

Re: Pac Nor Otter6 #11204185 05/24/16
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 44,820 M mathman Campfire 'Bwana
mathman Campfire 'Bwana M Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 44,820	I've read an article about PacNor using a Sunnen honing machine to eliminate the post drilling/reaming, pre-rifling lapping operation. Those who do the lapping after rifling say the feel of the honed then rifled bores is more consistent.

Re: Pac Nor dennisinaz #11204381 05/24/16
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 46,023 Colorado S smokepole Campfire 'Bwana
smokepole Campfire 'Bwana S Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 46,023 Colorado	Originally Posted by dennisinaz Only problem with Pac Nor is how long you have to wait to get one. I can get barrels elsewhere in 1-3 weeks and don't see the point in waiting. True, but then you need to send it to a gunsmith and wait on the gunsmith, and with lots of them you're better off having it done turnkey. They cerakote now too. A wise man is frequently humbled.

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Re: Pac Nor smokepole #11204415 05/24/16
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 44,820 M mathman Campfire 'Bwana
mathman Campfire 'Bwana M Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 44,820	I believe Dennis fits and chambers his own barrels.

Re: Pac Nor Otter6 #11204432 05/24/16
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,416 Eastern part of W. Texas! Bbear Campfire Regular
Bbear Campfire Regular Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,416 Eastern part of W. Texas!	Not certain what all pixie dust Pac-nor uses, I just know that the work they do has been top-notch and spot on with the one's I've sent to them. Support your local Friends of NRA - supporting Youth Shooting Sports for more than 20 years. Neither guns nor Liberals have a brain. Whatever you do, Pay it Forward. - Kids are the future of the hunting and shooting world.

Re: Pac Nor Otter6 #11204508 05/24/16
Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 2,315 PA O Otter6 OP Campfire Regular
OP Otter6 Campfire Regular O Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 2,315 PA	I was just trying to decide which way to go myself. Have Pac Nor do the truing and fitting,or have a smithy buddy of mine mount the barrel. I asked him his opinion of Pac Nor barrels and he said he had 3 of them on order right now. Loves them. He isn't that busy,so the wait time for him to true,mount,chamber would be decent. I was surprised the selection of reamers Pac Nor has on hand. They aren't limited to sloppy neck dimensions. I wouldn't have any reservations with them doing the job. Very friendly and informative people. Last edited by Otter6; 05/24/16. "Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

Re: Pac Nor Otter6 #11204640 05/24/16
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 9,611 Central Texas P powdr Campfire Outfitter
powdr Campfire Outfitter P Joined: May 2005 Posts: 9,611 Central Texas	The two they've done for me were excellent shooters but no better than a Douglas fitted by IT&D at half the price. I can't see buying a $500 rifle and then turn around and spend $600 or more to rebarrel it. Just me. powdr

Re: Pac Nor Otter6 #11204943 05/24/16
Joined: Nov 2014 Posts: 69 VT L longdog Campfire Greenhorn
longdog Campfire Greenhorn L Joined: Nov 2014 Posts: 69 VT	They do top notch work. 6.5x47 Lapua, 223ai, 6.5-06, 6x47 Lapua, 280ai, 280ai, 280ai. All of them are excellent shooters.

Re: Pac Nor powdr #11204993 05/24/16
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 17,306 Durham, CA Higginez Campfire Ranger
Higginez Campfire Ranger Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 17,306 Durham, CA	Originally Posted by powdr It always amazed me how people could give Pac Nor $650 for a barrel and installation when Dave at IT&D will barrel w/Douglas barrel and the complete job for barrel and install is only $300. To each his own I guess. powdr Originally Posted by powdr The two they've done for me were excellent shooters but no better than a Douglas fitted by IT&D at half the price. I can't see buying a $500 rifle and then turn around and spend $600 or more to rebarrel it. Just me. powdr Let's see some pics then powdr. Don't be shy. Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again! Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the 24HCF.

Re: Pac Nor powdr #11205009 05/24/16
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 13,401 Hoosierland, Indiana Kimber7man Campfire Outfitter
Kimber7man Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 13,401 Hoosierland, Indiana	Originally Posted by powdr It always amazed me how people could give Pac Nor $650 for a barrel and installation when Dave at IT&D will barrel w/Douglas barrel and the complete job for barrel and install is only $300. To each his own I guess. powdr Dave charged me $440 for a Douglas barrel job on my Montana. FWIW “There are some who can live without wild things and some who cannot.” ALDO LEOPOLD

Re: Pac Nor msinc #11205031 05/24/16
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 18,854 The LBK......TX 2 257heaven Campfire Ranger
257heaven Campfire Ranger 2 Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 18,854 The LBK......TX	Originally Posted by msinc Originally Posted by 257heaven Anybody shot Pac-nor's polygonal rifling lately? I've got 3 in the starting blocks waiting for my lazy azz to send them off to the smith. Just thought I'd try them. Yep, and it shot great. Very accurate rifle, but their version of "polygonal" is not really true polygonal...unless they sent me the wrong barrel. Best way to describe it is 6 groove ramped rifling. Kind of 5R but with an extra land. The lands in the barrel I have are definitely flat on the top of the land. True polygonal rifling has no corners or flats...everything is supposed to be curved. At least it is in every polygonal rifled barrel I have seen, with one exception..Black Hole Weaponry. It is strange, but then it works great too!! This barrel shot good right out of the gate, no to very little break in. I was expecting 5 grooves, too. But counted 6 and thought....WTF?? But glad to hear that they shoot good. Sent from my Dingleberry Handheld Wireless

Re: Pac Nor Otter6 #11205076 05/24/16
Joined: Nov 2014 Posts: 69 VT L longdog Campfire Greenhorn
longdog Campfire Greenhorn L Joined: Nov 2014 Posts: 69 VT	223ai Montana, 75amax, 282 yds.

Re: Pac Nor mathman #11205278 05/24/16
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 46,023 Colorado S smokepole Campfire 'Bwana
smokepole Campfire 'Bwana S Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 46,023 Colorado	Originally Posted by mathman I believe Dennis fits and chambers his own barrels. Like the OP? A wise man is frequently humbled.

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