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Originally Posted by JP_Lucas
I've killed thousands of animals with one Does one have to burn out a barrel before they can comment on a subject?


You obviously have, several of them...


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Barrels are like tyres..... Just fry em !! something only a 270 owner knows too well



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Of the two, I'll take the Swede. Had a 270, and it was OK. I still have my two Swedes.

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If Quickload can be believed ( it can't ) the difference between the two has shrunk even more. With the new wonder powders like R26 a 130 Berger can come close to 3,000+ fps and the heavies like a 160 Hornaday can come close to 2700 fps. in the 1894 Cartridge.

So we have the equivalent of a race between a 122 year old and a spry 91 year old. Who can get their walker across the finish line first? Odds are the 91 year old youngster hands down. But that Old Swede has staying power so is not entirely out of the race by any means.

This will need verification but at the same pressures the 6.5 is within 100-150 fps of the .270 and maybe less in some cases.

OK back on the Short Bus.


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Originally Posted by Tejano

OK back on the Short Bus.

laugh

Hope there's enough room... grin

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Would like to try RL-16 and 130 gr Nosler Partitions in one of my .270's.

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Originally Posted by JP_Lucas
I thought everyone knew the magic of the 6.5x55. I've killed thousands of animals with one and none of them moved out of their tracks. I have burned out four 270 barrels vs one 6.5x55 barrel. Does one have to burn out a barrel before they can comment on a subject?


No but if you're going to start flapping your jaws about barrel life,you'd expect the jaw flapper would have some personal experience to back it up.

But that's maybe too much to expect.

How many rounds you figure it took to cook your 270 barrels?

Not that I give a crap about barrel life. That's for pussies. Just go buy another one. grin




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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
Bob,

I was hunting last fall in the local mountains and heard a shot. Man, it was LOUD, so I said to myself: John, that must be a .270 Winchester!



John yeah I have been terrified by those loud 270's....just scared the shidt outta me. Touch one off and every animal within the drainage goes underground.

They must be pretty high strung nervous types Down Under.

Course, anyone with a brain, who hand loads, knows you can drop the slow burners in the 270,use 4064 instead,and get a reduction in muzzle blast....and maybe save some barrel life,too. It will resemble a 6.5x55 loaded top end....LOL.

Provided you are anal enough to worry about this silly crap.







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Originally Posted by BobinNH

...use 4064 instead,and get a reduction in muzzle blast....and maybe save some barrel life,too. It will resemble a 6.5x55 loaded top end....LOL.

Provided you are anal enough to worry about this silly crap.


I was thinking about the same relationship w/6.5 Swede speeds.

I've used 4064 yrs ago w/130s and got between 2900-3000 fps. Sounds familiar, what just developing my Swede w/120s. smirk


In ALL my yrs of reading gun/loading/shooting/hunting rags.....the 270 W was not rated among the barrel burners.
OTOH , 220 Swift, 22-250, & 264 Win Mag rated top honors.

WAIT - 264 ?.......6.5 huh !


Seems strange that all of a sudden the 270 is a bll eater, strange !

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Jerry like a lot of stuff posted here, it's a bunch of BS... grin

Of course you know about 4064 loads....I'm not surprised! wink




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Ive decided to send my 270s down the road



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Good! Some of you guys will fall for anything....LOL!




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Originally Posted by BobinNH
Jerry like a lot of stuff posted here, it's a bunch of BS... grin

Of course you know about 4064 loads....I'm not surprised! wink


I got that load out of my First manual, Lyman something @ 1975. Later I found it as a 'moderate' load from JOC.

It actually killed deer but the trajectory was lacking. huh ?

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Originally Posted by Shodd
Ive decided to send my 270s down the road
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Well......


Trade me 2 sorry 270s for 1 good Swede ?

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Originally Posted by jwall
Originally Posted by Shodd
Ive decided to send my 270s down the road
Shod


Well......


Trade me 2 sorry 270s for 1 good Swede ?

Jerry


I've got a T3 Blued 270 ID trade

I decided to hold onto my Sako Finnbear.

Whats your Swede? smile




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Originally Posted by BobinNH
Originally Posted by JP_Lucas
I thought everyone knew the magic of the 6.5x55. I've killed thousands of animals with one and none of them moved out of their tracks. I have burned out four 270 barrels vs one 6.5x55 barrel. Does one have to burn out a barrel before they can comment on a subject?


No but if you're going to start flapping your jaws about barrel life,you'd expect the jaw flapper would have some personal experience to back it up.

But that's maybe too much to expect.

How many rounds you figure it took to cook your 270 barrels?

Not that I give a crap about barrel life. That's for pussies. Just go buy another one. grin


BOB

Honestly I never have shot out a barrel. I've never kept one long enough to shoot it out. I am not silly enough to think a 6.5x55 can shoot faster than a 270. I just enjoy shooting the 6.5 more. Have fun and burn some powder.

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Why not both. We have a 260 Rem, 6.5x55, 264 Win mag and a 270 Win in the house and like all of them especially the 3 standard rounds. They all work well.


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My hunting bud isn't a Fire contributor, doesn't know anything about a "gay" .270, shoots a well used Sendero with a tired barrel. Thru the Hawkeye, it's pretty bad, shoots a solid 1 1/2" at a hundred with factory 130's. He loves Partitions.

I asked him why he packed such a heavy rifle. His reply, "I know what it'll do when I get it there".

And he kills stuff with that old gun, he's deadly with it, bunches of WT's, hogs, 'yotes, etc. over the years. I watched him kill a speed goat at a measured 435 yds. No turret, no ranging reticle. He knew how much it dropped at that distance, held accordingly. Boom, plop. Meat in the ice chest.

I told him we could swap out the barrel for a better one. He said when it quit shooting, he'd do it.

I guess ignorance is bliss... laugh

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Originally Posted by BobinNH


They must be pretty high strung nervous types Down Under.



Hey whoah Big Bob!

We're mostly steady types... though I suspect we like to stir up an argument as much as anyone!

Truth is I reckon, the average Aussie hunter that lives in the bush shoots many many animals over a lifetime, but in nearly every case we don't use a wide variety of cartridges.

So in one sense we have very deep levels of experience, but also quite narrow. By the time I was 18 I'd probably shot 5000 head of game, and 4000 of those would have been with the 308 Win. Probably 800 of the remaining would have been with the 222.

Certainly I've diversified a bit since then, especially the last 15 years.


So go easy on us down here in the Nanny State mate... smile We don't know everything, but we do know some stuff.


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