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If you don't like levers try a model 7 in 358 Winchester or 338 federal I sure would like to have a model 7 in 35 Rem.
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A Sako Finnlight in 338 Federal has 500 more FPE than a 358WIn, and the 358Win is a slammer. 338 can send a 210 grain pill down range with 3200+ fpe, so that is thump in the woods.
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...only when the .358 is loaded down....which it is, intentionally, vs factory .338. The .358 hand loaded, will do way more than the fed, because there's way more bullets it can use.
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Find a free weekend and come shoot it. Where you located? Likely more than a weekend away but thanks for the kind offer. Always fun to visit new places and meet new friends. I'm over in the NE corner of AL. It's a Model 7, a few oz's lighter than a 700 but if I was doing it from scratch I'd go with a blind mag 700. At the time there was a 4x Leupold on it. Just switched it out for a 6x and need to get it sighted in.
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The more I look into this project ,the more the 358 Win appeals to me.
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I don't know if there is enough meat in the barrel, but a Howa Alpine in .243, 7mm-08, or .308 rebored might fit the bill. 6.7 lbs scoped is the listed weight of the .308 Win and they either have a detachable magazine or standard floor plate to choose from.
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These 2 work for me 19" 35 Whelen ![[Linked Image]](http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b297/Shoalcove/Rifle1/whel2_zps10776037.jpg) Marlin 336ER ![[Linked Image]](http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b297/Shoalcove/Rifle1/3562_zpsb7aa23ab.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b297/Shoalcove/Rifle1/3561_zpsc28f3558.jpg)
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lightweight is subjective, but this is less than 7# before ammo ![[Linked Image]](http://i399.photobucket.com/albums/pp78/1sikpupi/Mobile%20Uploads/20160607_195834_zpsyumhvohl.jpg) This is what you need. You can find factory loads that are "mild to wild" or you can reload that way on the cheap. There is not an animal in the world you can not take with a correctly loaded 45-70. You just have to get in range and make the shot. When we go shooting, my grand kids love to shoot the 45-70s.
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Doug Turnbull makes a short lever gun chambered in .475 Turnbull that he calls the Thumper model.
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H & R Handy Rifle in .45-70, 18.5 barrel. Short, handy, and quite the Thumper. Lots lighter than any of the the lever guns. Hand load for it and adjust the load to your comfort level.
Model 7 KS in .350 is quite nice.
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Other than what has already been suggested, how about a Sako Black Bear in 9.3x62? 20" barrel, light, fixed sights, and plenty of whomp.
Also a Marlin lever in 444.
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Hey guys, I just saw that Kimber is offering the 338 Federal in the Adirondak. http://www.eurooptic.com/KIMBER-3000801-Kimber-84M-Adirondack--2016--338-Fed-3000801.aspx#tab-2What do you think the velocity of 200 grn. would be out of the 18" barrel? Could it be too much of a good thing at under 5 lbs,considering the 3oz weight of an Aimpoint H1?
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You should be able to gain nothing over a 308 with more recoil to boot. What's not to like!
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You should be able to gain nothing over a 308 with more recoil to boot. What's not to like! Kind of what I was expecting.LOL
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I have zero need but have an itch for a short fast handling light weight thumper. My thought is something larger than .30cal used for deer and hogs under 100 yards in thick woods and river bottoms. Light weight and handy is number one criteria. I'll likely mount an Aimpoint H1 or 1.5X scope on it.
My thought is something along the line of a Ruger 77/44 or Deerfield carbine, though the 44 mag doesn't really excite me. The discontinued Montana in 338 Federal would be a top choice for me ,perhaps with a cut down barrel. A short 45/70 lever would fit the bill nicely though I really prefer bolt rifles.
Anyway,anyone have some suggestions for something I have overlooked? I really truly love my Model 7 in .358 Win. Obviously you'd have to build it, but that ain't no thing. Building one on a regular M700 short action would be easier and arguably better. If you do that, include an extended mag box like the Wyatt's. The extra COAL will come in VERY handy, trust me.
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Browning Mirco X-Bolt or A-Bolt (here come the comments about Brownings...) in 7-08 or 308.
Bought one and that is my woods rifle.
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Have you thought about a .338/06?
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These 2 work for me 19" 35 Whelen Marlin 336ER Nice pair. I had the 356 in the 94 BB several years ago.
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I made a 338Fed from a Rem600. It was a 308. I prefer something that is not majnstream. My 338F shoots 200gr Hornady SPs at 2600 from a 21" barrel. It is 6.5 pounds all up and ready to go with a McM Mountain Rifle swirly. It does not kick any more than the 308. Everybody that has ever borrowed it, wants to buy it. I am not selling it!
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Browning Mirco X-Bolt or A-Bolt (here come the comments about Brownings...) in 7-08 or 308.
Bought one and that is my woods rifle. I've got a Montana in 7mm-08. I just have an itch for a larger bore,something less mainstream.
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