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I have always liked model 70's, though I've only owned two, a pre-64 270 in a fiberglass stock (now gone) and a new haven Coyote in 270 WSM. I've thought a big bore project would be fun on a stainless classic action and I'm looking for some of your guys's wisdom. I found a new haven ultimate shadow hunter in 270 WSM, it's stainless classic action in a camouflage dipped plastic stock. How much is a fair price for this donor gun and what is the best big bore based on the WSM case? Some sort of short 404? I would be happy with peep sights or a fixed 1.5x or 2.5x scope. My other big rifles are a nice but slightly heavy Wheatherby MKV in 375 h&h and a Remington CDL in 35 Whelen.
Thanks for your thoughts!
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Well, there was a factory offering in .325 WSM. Beyond that is a wildcat, which I considered inn 9.3. But after realizing that meant custom dies, reamer, barrel, etc., I decided the novelty wasn't worth it when I could get a 375 Ruger from CDNN for less than $900 in left hand.
Still, I'm your fan if you want to do the WSM.
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I was going to do a .458x2" on a stainless SAUM action, I even had the barrel ordered. The dealer messed up on my barrel order and after waiting 6 months, I cancelled my order and bought a Ruger Alaskan .375 Ruger.
I like the idea of the .458x2" as you can use easy to find belted magnum brass and .450 Marlin dies. No expensive custom equipment required.
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I did a .358 WSM on a stainless classic action, in a McMillan Hunter stock. Shoots great but I don't really use it.I'd let it go for a fair price if you're interested. Along with dies and 325 brass.
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One of my good customers bought a Stainless Classic 70 .270 WSM from us and sent it to Hill Country Rifles for conversion to .450 Marlin. The finished product makes me very envious...
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Some great ideas guys! Any help on a reasonable price for a stainless donor model 70?
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I saw on one of the forums, don't remember which one, a fellow cut the wsm case off at the shoulder and seated 50 cal bullets. seemed like a good idea for a thumper.
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https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/10828999/Searchpage/1/Main/707736/Words/micky/Search/true/Re:_450_Marlin_Bolt_action#Post10828999
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Shooter42, what did the "cut off at the shoulder" case headspace on?
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the case mouth like the 9 luger and 45 acp. I believe he called it the 510 wsm.
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I have always liked model 70's, though I've only owned two, a pre-64 270 in a fiberglass stock (now gone) and a new haven Coyote in 270 WSM. I've thought a big bore project would be fun on a stainless classic action and I'm looking for some of your guys's wisdom. I found a new haven ultimate shadow hunter in 270 WSM, it's stainless classic action in a camouflage dipped plastic stock. How much is a fair price for this donor gun and what is the best big bore based on the WSM case? Some sort of short 404? I would be happy with peep sights or a fixed 1.5x or 2.5x scope. My other big rifles are a nice but slightly heavy Wheatherby MKV in 375 h&h and a Remington CDL in 35 Whelen.
Thanks for your thoughts! The answer to your question is at the Accurate Reloading forum.. Here is a link to get you started.. http://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/4711043/m/9111029801/p/1edit: Ah, I now see mrfudd has already given the link that I posted.. No sense trying to renvent the wheel as all the info you need is given on the link above.. gunsmith brass loading data
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.450 Marlin sounds like too much of a good thing to me.
But terminal performance should be something! You gotta really itch for an odd caliber to beat the .375 Ruger already discussed.
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Not really a big bore but my vote goes .350 Rem Mag.
I think x-verminator on here had one built on a wsm length crf m70 action. Check the blueprint thread.
It's like the Whelen in a slimmer 3" action rifle. Then sell the whelen classic and buy a magnum length action to build something big: .458, .416, etc.
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Not really a big bore but my vote goes .350 Rem Mag. Yep. IMO, the highest and best use for an M70 WSM action. I've contemplated doing one since the WSM appeared.
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I know there was a 375 WSM floating around the 'Fire some years back.
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