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I don't doubt Hornady makes those claims. Whether any loading but a single factory load can repeat those results is another matter entirely.
For all practical purposes, you will probably end up with a rifle that only hold an advantage to a 20" '06 in that it is 1/2" shorter OAL. Disadvantages being an obsolete chambering that nobody else wants when you or your kids want to get rid of it.
If you want a Ruger, find one of the ultralight '06's The whole premise of a 20" ruger is a joke. The action is heavy and made out of a crudely cast block of steel. As such the gun will handle about as well as a 4x4.
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Hells Bells,just use something in the .270-.375 range and go kill elk.
This is not rocket science. As the punch line goes, this isn't about elk hunting, is it?
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I wonder sometimes.
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Hells Bells,just use something in the .243-.308 range and go kill elk.
This is not rocket science. Fixed.
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Hells Bells,just use something in the .243-.308 range and go kill elk.
This is not rocket science. Fixed. If you say so!
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Hells Bells,just use something in the .243-.308 range and go kill elk.
This is not rocket science. Fixed. If you say so! I say so.
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The whole premise of a 20" ruger is a joke. The action is heavy and made out of a crudely cast block of steel. As such the gun will handle about as well as a 4x4.
There is something to be said for an action that is rock solid and reliable. While a short-barreled Ruger may not be to your taste, I love my 16.1" barreled Ruger Scout. An iron-sighted rifle with a 20" barrel that offers .30-06+ capabilities is of considerable interest to me, particularly if it comes with a relatively lightweight synthetic stock.
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No, I'm not a Ruger bigot - just an unabashed fan of their revolvers, M77's and #1's.
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I don't doubt Hornady makes those claims. Whether any loading but a single factory load can repeat those results is another matter entirely.
For all practical purposes, you will probably end up with a rifle that only hold an advantage to a 20" '06 in that it is 1/2" shorter OAL. Disadvantages being an obsolete chambering that nobody else wants when you or your kids want to get rid of it.
If you want a Ruger, find one of the ultralight '06's Thanks for the advice but I have three .30-06's, two Rugers (M77 and MKII) and one Remingiton M700. Getting another .30-06 really doesn't interest me. The extra case capacity (3-4 grains) should allow another 100fps or more, basically making up for chopping a 24" .30-06 to 20". Along with the 1/2" and associated weight reduction, I'll take it. As far as the girls, they will get their choice of whatever rifles they want. The rest will probably be sold. In any case, I wouldn't be buying the .300RCM for them as they don't reload. They could donate it to a good cause or use it as a tomato stake for all I care. I suspect, though, like my Marlin 375 (.375 Win), it will retain its value and then some. What is important is that I want a short, handy and relatively lightweight rifle with .30-06 or better reach and I'm not interested in a another custom. Please tell me where I can get a .30-06 (or your choice of .30 caliber) that comes in at 7 lbs or less, has a synthetic stock, iron sights, a 20" barrel, can hit 2800+fps with a 180g bullet and can be had for $499 and a phone call?
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Sixteen pages on an unanswerable question.
Reminds me of Ross Seyfried's comment to me on the CF-"too much chaff, not enough wheat".
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300 weatherby drives a 200gr bullets over 3000 fps does that have any value?
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300 weatherby drives a 200gr bullets over 3000 fps does that have any value? It does if doing so is one's goal or if one is willing to settle for a 200g bullet at only 3000fps. Not so much if one has other priorities.
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300 weatherby drives a 200gr bullets over 3000 fps does that have any value? It does, in the same way that a .338 Lapua driving a 300 grain bullet over 2,700 FPS has value.
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Ok, ok, ok,..it's really close.
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Sixteen pages on an unanswerable question.
Reminds me of Ross Seyfried's comment to me on the CF-"too much chaff, not enough wheat".
The answer is quite clear. It's the off season. Too much free time.......and not enough 270 Winchesters obviously.
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The 300 Weatherby is way small for elk. Bullets likely to make a dent in the hide and bounce off. A 340 Weatherby is in the right direction but a 375 or better yet a 378 Weatherby is getting pretty close. And then if only using heavy bullets - Swift or Nosler Partitions.
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No, there is nothing better and of course with Barnes TTSXs....
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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No, there is nothing better and of course with Barnes TTSXs.... Ummmm no......
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No, there is nothing better and of course with Barnes TTSXs.... 300 ultra is better and so is the 308 depending on which way you want to go.
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Before someone starts screaming at me for 6 years, I was kidding. A 300 Weatherby is a great Elk Rifle, I am sure, though I'm judging that on my use of a 300 Win Mag.
Someone needs help.
I prefer classic. Semper Fi I used to run with the hare. Now I'm envious of the tortoise and I do my own stunts but rarely intentionally
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