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I've already been over that in this thread. Please re-read it.

I think that is bigoted and condemning.

What I wonder is if you've ever done anything to help reduce the incidence of divorce. You certainly complain about it enough. Do you have anything or just more nihilism?

ETA: I thought more about this.

If you are so concerned about divorce, why don't you start a thread about divorce instead of crapping in threads that have nothing to do with it?

But, I don't believe you really care. I think your just a nihilist getting your jollies crapping in threads.

I am still married to the woman I met when I was 21 years of age, does that mean at 52 I can have a say about the prevalence of divorce.

No it doesn't, neither does being Christian or straight entitle us to pontificate about those that are gay.

In their eyes it does. They're doing God's work dont'cha know?

I figured someone would ask that. The answer is my ex-wife had a lesbian aunt that was only a couple of years older than us that worked at the Pentagon. When we would go to Washington, we would stay at her house. Her aunt would always want us to meet her friends and adopted "family". (Mom was a 50 yr old drag queen) So yep, we hit most of the gay clubs (avoided the leather bars) in the area. It was interesting, but helped me make up my mind that LBGT is a choice, not a condition, and at the time, most of them would agree with that statement. My overall impression was that were uniformly unhappy.

Until God himself appears before them and asks a favour then it is all about people controlling other people.

Nothing more, nothing less.

You know that and I know that but.......

Your impression that homosex attraction is a choice and that those that practice that condition were uniformly unhappy implies that they were uniformly choosing to be unhappy.

Do you find that odd?

Aren't you glad that God doesn't choose to look at YOU through the filter of a cherry-picked Old Testament Bible verse...?

Aren't you glad that God didn't look for a loophole or workaround when it came to His love for YOU...?

It seems, *more than anything else*, that what you don't like is someone pointing out the hypocrisy that is present in ALL of these threads where homosexuality is vehemently condemned by 'Christains' who are themselves sinners according to the very Bible that they thump so loudly.

The thumping deafens them to hearing themselves.

You and I have been over this before. Please point out where I've said I'm an atheist.

Why does everyone ground the argument against homosexuality exclusively in the Bible? Homosexuality is contra naturam (against nature). It would still be wrong even if every religion in the world said it was right. BTW, there is good research going back even from the 90s showing that homosexuals, especially men, have psychic disress and pathologies that appear intrinsic to being a homosexual. (Not including the physical health problems [disease] of a homosexual lifestyle.) This phenomenon of intrinsic psychic distress is also present in homosexuals who live in cultures or societies which give "status parity" to homosexual and heterosexual behavior. It is therefore, not a function of discrimination. In other words, this psychic distress is intimately bound up with being a homosexual.

When the APA removed homosexuality as a mental disorder from the DSM, they did not do so on the basis of any empirical evidence but solely in capitulation to political pressure (a sit in and protest by homosexual activists at the annual meeting of the APA). The president of the APA was very explicit: the delisting was done on "humanitarian" (viz. emotional and political) grounds, not on the basis of science.

Jordan

I think it is the other way around. There is a uniform unhappiness that leads them to make a poor choice, trying to escape thier unhappiness. I've seen it more recently in one of my God children. She is unhappy with something in her life,is drinking to excess, and living a lesbian lifestyle. I'm fairly certain she doesn't consciously know why she is unhappy. I've spent a lot of time fishing with her and wish I could help her more.

No, it's just a fact. Just because I recognize the differences in a person, doesn't mean I dislike or judge them based upon those differences. Unlike you, who is compelled to do so by the creator of the universe.

Hey bozo, you do realize that I realize a lot more than you can imagine, and don't feel the least bit "victimized" by jive-talking fools. I do enjoy exposing smart-alek fakers, tho. Nothing was re-written or misinterpreted - those were your very terms. You simply were asked to support your poor assumption - which you have not done. Further and clearly, either you do not understand the basis for hypocrisy or you might and are so silly as to apply that label without knowledge. About AS and the soul, I spoke in "maybe" terms - you seem so self-assured as to state your baseless assumptions as knowledge. Now, what label applies to that?

Actually you are right about being able to recognize a gay person easily. My ex-wife lesbian aunt and her "man" told me the same thing. We can all recognize one of the limp writers easily, but it's also easy to spot people that are unhappy when they shouldn't be. That has been an accurate tell-tale for me.

Analysis here shows that quite a few discuss well the practice of homosexuality - including the possible origins and drivers - but don't engage in condemnations or superiority statements regarding the homosexual. It looks as though some of these same discussants are Christians, so those using the broad brush critiquing Christians in this regard may wish to re-think their positions. No matter how much we might enjoy expressing differing views and data on the origins and causes of homsexuality, such views seem like vapor in the long run. I think that the actual homosexual behavior may be the important pivot point - now with regard to the OP topic and later on a day of reckoning.

This is what you stated, your own words aimed squarely at AS.

Read your own words 'bozo'.