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I believe (the saintly to some) Jack O'Connor used to reflect on some scribes of the time writing that the 270 Win fell short of being adequate for deer since they, the deer, seemingly developed an iron coated hide since the days of black powder. Shoot them where they live and they don't live long.

Sean, you simply must break out of your shell and work on being able to express your opinion....

He needs a .270 Ingwe cartridge, the bullets go just the right speed to create bang flops.

Or alternatively, shoot straight

I've shot several deer with 130's out of .270 Winchesters, and all were DRT. I do run them as fast as I can, but it's no big trick to get 3100+ fps with 130's. I have to think 3350 out of a WSM would give the same result as 3150 with the same bullet.

Patrick: that was mean.


Ive been nice to you all day.

Earlier in this thread I drafted a longish dissertation on ways to ensure that CNS shock would be forthcoming. I decided that it was a bit pedantic, so I just erased it. My wife has the best solution. Every time she hears stories about blood trailing, lost animals, etc., she says (assertively), "Shoot 'em in the head!"

My father shot a good number of deer with relatively fast stuff, 300 Win. mag with 165s, 7mm Wby. with 139-140 grain bullets, 264 Win. mag with 120-129 grain bullets, 270 Win. with 130s out of a 26" barrel. Interlocks, Sierras, Ballistic Tips. Some deer would drop straight down while others ran surprising distances with heart-lung puree draining from the chest cavity.

I've shot lots of deer with 12ga slugs of various brands. AND, I've shot deer with 243, 270, 35 Rem, 358 Win, 38-55, & 35Whelen.

Now days, just gimme a 243 or 270 for the most consistent B-F results. I hate tracking deer! Bigger isn't always better.

I shall endeavor to persevere to that end.

Let me take a guess

It zips through them so fast they don't even know they've been shot.

I bet the bullet is going so fast it doesn't even expand.

I've heard that one.

Yeah, I hear it all the time from guys that can't shoot worth a crap and pack a magnum of some kind and never find their deer they hit through the guts.

150 grain Sierra Gameking. Hit them where they live most of all.

When their eyes bug out after the shot, they usually don't go far...

at least I didn't show the photo

About 2'??

I'll get told I'm ignorant but ive seen it dozens of times from my friend and my dad. load some 90 grain Sierra varmint bullets in that wsm and keep them in the ribs. they won't run very often but if they do it won't go far. If you hit that shoulder it gets iffy. My dad used this combo for a while and only once we had a hard time finding the deer, but we found it. I'd personally run that wsm with a 130 accubond through the shoulders and track very little.

DRT, on the run, through the shoulders with exit. 130 Partition./270 WCF. Same old "same old".

Nothing mysterious.

I wish they would let us shoot whatever we want here, and let us make the choice.

Deer are not hard to kill.

MILLER TIME!