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I need some advice on what reticle to choose in the Z3 line that is most visible in low light (30 min before sunrise/after sunset). The gun is a Kimber Adirondack 308. Thanks for your help.

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I* like the #4 reticle they offer for strictly lowlight . If you want something that will work at LR and stand out in lowlight then the BRH is another alternative.

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4a/4A in a Z3 3-9x36, or 3-10x42. Either would fit your application.


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I have called Swarovski and they don't offer the #4 in the Z3. Just the 4a. Thanks for the replies.

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Originally Posted by RAAK
I have called Swarovski and they don't offer the #4 in the Z3. Just the 4a. Thanks for the replies.


Yeah its a 4A

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I don't really need the ballistic reticle but if it is easier to see than the 4A I could get use to it. Has anyone compared these two? BRH vs 4A.

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4a, love it

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10-4 handwerk I hope to find one to look through this weekend. Swaros are pretty scarce around here.

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Originally Posted by RAAK
I don't really need the ballistic reticle but if it is easier to see than the 4A I could get use to it. Has anyone compared these two? BRH vs 4A.



I favor the 4a over the BRH especially for lowlight conditions

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Nothing Beats The 4A For Me.And I've Have-Had Them All.My Main Go To Rifle Wears a 3-10-42 With a 4a. Can Shoot Way Past Legal Light..

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I hope to find that exact scope this weekend Mull. Thanks.

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Mine has the plex and its killed a bunch of critters. I've never found it hard to use in low light as I often read here.

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Ive read all about Swaros thin reticles. It is the perfect scope for my rifle but I was/am worried about it. I've about decided to just order one and find out for myself.

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Originally Posted by RAAK
Ive read all about Swaros thin reticles. It is the perfect scope for my rifle but I was/am worried about it. I've about decided to just order one and find out for myself.


I don't think you'd regret it. Mines been a dependable hunting scope and easy to get behind.

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Originally Posted by RAAK
Ive read all about Swaros thin reticles. It is the perfect scope for my rifle but I was/am worried about it. I've about decided to just order one and find out for myself.


Were the thin reticles you refer to in the Z6 series? TheZ6 did have some uber-thin reticles. That changed three or four years ago. While still thin, they are not nearly the wispy thin reticle that they used to be.


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I had read about the thin Z3 reticles too. Maybe it was the plex and the brx that I had read were too thin. I didn't find one with the 4a this weekend to look at. It's pretty tough to pick out the facts from bulls$@t on the Internet.

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I have a Z3 3-10x42 with a 4A reticle. Perfect scope and reticle for hunting in low light in Alabama during legal shooting times.

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Originally Posted by ruraldoc

I have a Z3 3-10x42 with a 4A reticle. Perfect scope and reticle for hunting in low light in Alabama during legal shooting times.


I have used the Plex, 4A and BRH on lowlight deer in Alabama all in a few 4-12x50 or the 3-10x42 with no issues. I can't believe that Marks Outdoors, BassPro or Field and Stream does not have one or the other in stock. Only way you are going to find out if it works for you is to buy one and try it out. They are easy enough to sell on the used market.

4 or 4A is my favorite by far either in the Swaro or a Meopta r1. This year I will be bringing along a Zeiss Conquest DL with a #6 reticle .

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I have both the 4A and the BRH. The 4A is better by far in low light situations. The BRH really helps out West in wide open country. Great glass in both.

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4A for me. I have German #4's on Meopta, Zeiss and Leupold scopes.


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