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Greenies never do figure out real life best I can tell.
YMMV That pretty much sums it up. Liberals don't have to figure out life...the government does it for them.
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On a little side note, often marine filling stations and marinas sell ethanol-free gas. I take an extra can with me when I'm near one so I can fill it up for all of my small engines.
Mercy ceases to be a virtue when it enables further injustice. -Brent Weeks
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Campfire Kahuna
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I would too, if I had such. For dang sure.
I"ve been tempted to spend the extra and go fill jugs at the airport too... but never got that far because its more miles out of hte way for me.
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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Campfire Kahuna
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On a little side note, often marine filling stations and marinas sell ethanol-free gas. I take an extra can with me when I'm near one so I can fill it up for all of my small engines. We have several around here. People who depend on boats can't afford the problems that ethanol creates.
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Campfire Kahuna
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On a little side note, often marine filling stations and marinas sell ethanol-free gas. I take an extra can with me when I'm near one so I can fill it up for all of my small engines. This website has a list of stations selling ethanol free gas. Click on your state, then find the station nearest you.. http://www.pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov=TX
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The biggest problem occurs when you mix ethanol with ethanol free fuels. The additives conflict and gel. Pain in the ass.
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Does premium gas have ethanol in it?
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Does premium gas have ethanol in it? Yes, unless it says otherwise. Ethanol dissolves fuel lines and resins, especially those in fiberglass. It also attracts water and separates in a relatively short amount of time. It also causes more combustion for the amount of energy produced, reducing gas mileage.
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Does premium gas have ethanol in it? Yes, unless it says otherwise. Ethanol dissolves fuel lines and resins, including those in fiberglass. It also attracts water and separates in a relatively short amount of time. It also causes more combustion for the amount of energy produced, reducing gas mileage. It's got ethanol in it. But, after having to pay a large bill for rebuilding the fuel system in my Honda Rancher, the guys there told me to use premium in it. Plus, I treat the gas with Stabil and Stabil Ethanol Treatment. Run everything regularly. It seems that the most damage occurs when you let something sit and the gas evaporates from the fuel system. The damaging decay happens then... (After the gas has evaporated and oxidation sets in.)
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Does premium gas have ethanol in it? Yes, unless it says otherwise. Ethanol dissolves fuel lines and resins, including those in fiberglass. It also attracts water and separates in a relatively short amount of time. It also causes more combustion for the amount of energy produced, reducing gas mileage. It's got ethanol in it. But, after having to pay a large bill for rebuilding the fuel system in my Honda Rancher, the guys there told me to use premium in it. Plus, I treat the gas with Stabil and Stabil Ethanol Treatment. Run everything regularly. It seems that the most damage occurs when you let something sit and the gas evaporates from the fuel system. The damaging decay happens then... (After the gas has evaporated and oxidation sets in.) Useful, thanks...
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That's the short term problems for sure. Ethanol is also responsible for shorter engine life because of it is a very strong "cleaner". Today's motors will last much longer without it. I guess that's good for the car companies.
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That's the short term problems for sure. Ethanol is also responsible for shorter engine life because of it is a very strong "cleaner". Today's motors will last much longer without it. I guess that's good for the car companies. Got two pickups and two tractors that run on diesel. I wish everything else did.
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Nice! It lists both stations I use, so it seems pretty accurate.
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Does premium gas have ethanol in it? Yes, unless it says otherwise. Ethanol dissolves fuel lines and resins, including those in fiberglass. It also attracts water and separates in a relatively short amount of time. IT ALSO CAUSES MORE COMBUSTION FOR THE AMOUNT OF ENERGY PRODUCED, reducing gas mileage. I got into an online discussion with a liberal ethanol lover on Bangshift.com who believes (like a religion) that ethanol produces more power and provides better MPG than gasoline. When I pointed out that it takes more ethanol to produce as much power as gasoline because a gallon of ethanol produces less energy (heat) than a gallon of gasoline he informed me that heat has nothing to do with energy. When I pointed out that heat has everything to do with power production he let me know how stupid I was stopped responding. A friend of mine has a Lamborgini built by Undergraound Racing that makes about 1200hp on pump gas, about 1500hp on racing gas and over 2000hp on pure ethanol (E100). When he changes fuels he programs the engine control computer for the fuel he is running and the computer adjusts the turbo boost and the amount of fuel to match the fuel. You can run much higher boost with ethanol because it is has a real high octane rating (less explosive). Thanks to the all the free government money given to ethanol producers and E100 is about 1/10 the cost of racing gas. I'm considering running some E85 in my old high compression '68 El Camino but I'd have to up the compression to about 14:1 to make the same more power that it makes on 91 octane gas and the MPG would really suck.
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On a little side note, often marine filling stations and marinas sell ethanol-free gas. I take an extra can with me when I'm near one so I can fill it up for all of my small engines. This website has a list of stations selling ethanol free gas. Click on your state, then find the station nearest you.. http://www.pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov=TX Looked at a link like that some years ago, said a local station aobut 15 miles away had it. Drove over. Yep, it was sold in quart cans for the lawnmowers... Just an FYI.
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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I know this thread wasn't about ethanol to begin with but my post about ethanol sort of fits because the guy that owns the Lamborgini is/was in the oil drilling business. He hasn't drilled a well in over 2 years but made a ton of money when he was drilling. He bought a whole shop full of hot rods (10) and now has plenty of time to enjoy them.
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On the highway I get 4-5 more miles per gallon with non-ethanol. It's all I use for the ATV/mower/generator/weedeater etc etc.
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So more ethanol means LESS miles per gallon, which means MORE stops at the pump which means more TAXES collect.
At least Iowa farmers are happy.
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Exactly right which is why we all have to drive around in one of these.
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