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So what's the big attraction to it? Even the lowly 6.5 Remington Magnum bests it by 200fps(certain Nosler data).
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Feeding long-loaded 140s from a magazine even in semi autos, low recoil, great brass, great barrel life, great rifles.
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Great round with excellent ballistics, wide availability in rifles from a number of manufacturers and excellent factory ammo.
If I didn't already have an '06, .308, .270, and .243, I'd probably get one, or its neglected sister the .260. As it is, I've got it pretty much surrounded so unless I suddenly get convenient access to a place where I can "air one out" at very long range, I'll continue to admire it from afar.
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EZEARL,
The biggest factor in longer-range shooting anymore isn't muzzle velocity, but bullets with high ballistic coefficients, which reduce wind-drift far more than initial velocity.
Laser rangefinders and scopes with multi-point reticles or (best) a repeatable elevation turret make hitting small targets at longer ranges far more possible, so the big problem is wind-drift. The 6.5 Creedmoor is short enough to allow very high-BC bullets to be seated close to the lands, yet the overall cartridge will still fit in a standard "short-action" magazine. This isn't possible with a 6.5 Remington Magnum, which has a very short neck and really crowds a short magazine.
With high-BC bullets in the 130-140 grains range, the Creedmoor really cuts down on wind-drift at longer ranges, and recoil is mild enough for plenty of practice.
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Cuzz often times good enough is good enough.
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It can actually be better than "better", when "better" brings a couple of negatives to the party like shorter barrel life and added muzzle blast, etc.
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We're those 6.5 Mags ever twisted 1:8?
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So what's the big attraction to it? Even the lowly 6.5 Remington Magnum bests it by 200fps(certain Nosler data). Same reason there's a big attraction to 308, even though the 300 Win Mag beats it by a lot. (Or any other small vs large case comparison...)
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Plus the fact that Hornady makes what is likely the best load (143 ELDX) in a factory offering isn't a bad deal either.
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Out to 300 yards it will kill game just as dead as all the cannons I own. Grandkids blow just as big of holes in deer and pigs with it as I do with 264 Win mags and 26 Nosler. The big guns are better at longer ranges, but at practical ranges the 6.5 Creedmoor is just as good. In my opinion. I used to think a 7 Rem mag was the minimum cartridge.
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It can actually be better than "better", when "better" brings a couple of negatives to the party like shorter barrel life and added muzzle blast, etc. That's a pretty silly statement. Shorter barrel life, shorter that what, a 270 Win? Put on your hearing protection and muzzle blast is no problem.
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So what's the big attraction to it? Even the lowly 6.5 Remington Magnum bests it by 200fps(certain Nosler data). Same reason there's a big attraction to 308, even though the 300 Win Mag beats it by a lot. (Or any other small vs large case comparison...) EZ failed to read the thread. Read MD's reply.
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??? So what's the big attraction to it? Even the lowly 6.5 Remington Magnum bests it by 200fps(certain Nosler data). Same reason there's a big attraction to 308, even though the 300 Win Mag beats it by a lot. (Or any other small vs large case comparison...) EZ failed to read the thread. Read MD's reply.
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It can actually be better than "better", when "better" brings a couple of negatives to the party like shorter barrel life and added muzzle blast, etc. That's a pretty silly statement. Shorter barrel life, shorter that what, a 270 Win? Put on your hearing protection and muzzle blast is no problem. Assuming you're talking about the 6.5 Rem, the CR should give longer barrel life since it burns less powder. Probably not a factor for hunters, but lots of CR shooters also like to play at long range and burn up considerably more ammo than people that mostly just hunt. For those folks, longer barrel life can be an real advantage, not silly at all. Even with ear protection, muzzle blast can be distracting, and it can get to your ears through other conduits, not just the holes in your head. Personally, when someone nearby is shooting something with a lot of muzzle blast, I feel it in my chest and head, even with muffs. The baffles installed over the benches at one of the ranges I use exagerates the effect. If I start to anticipate the report it can affect my shooting. That ain't silly either.
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Been trying to reply but we're having MAJOR server problems.
I did read MD's reply as well as all the others. I've never messed with any of the 6.5's but have always been aware of the long bullets and high BC's associated with them. So with the design of the Creedmore case when combined with modern 6.5 bullets along with the latest optics and firearms technologies you get the near optimum long range set up. And it's one that pretty much anyone can handle. Sounds like a winner.
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Eleven, twelve, and thirteen year old grandkids shoot it. This is a Savage Predator-Hunter. I have been thinking about getting me one. They won't let use my own rifle.
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I need to have a 260 Remington re-barreled and am considering the 6.5 Creedmore. Against re-barreling to this cartridge are 1,000 260 cases and dies. I hate to spend more money than I need to.
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My bet is you can find a .260 loony or two who'll buy the brass.
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I need to have a 260 Remington re-barreled and am considering the 6.5 Creedmore. Against re-barreling to this cartridge are 1,000 260 cases and dies. I hate to spend more money than I need to. What bullet do you want to shoot? Long bullets eat up case cap quick. You could always keep the 260 chambers get and go with a Wyatts extended box to gain the case cap back. Sometimes, sticking with what you know makes sense.
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I need to have a 260 Remington re-barreled and am considering the 6.5 Creedmore. Against re-barreling to this cartridge are 1,000 260 cases and dies. I hate to spend more money than I need to. Having shot both cartridges a little, it seems to me that the 6.5 Creedmoor only has 2 advantages over the 260: 1. If you are shooting bullets longer than the 1.320" 130 grain AB. 2. If you want to shoot excellent factory ammo. Answer those 2 questions and you will know which fork in the road to take to 6.5mm bore nirvana. If you like you existing 260 barrel, would it be worth the effort to set it back, cut a fresh chamber and get a fresh throat?
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