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How long til the deputies can get back to work? If they continue in that community, or any community that knows their history, they'll get what they have coming. You sound as if you have experience with this. Is that why you no longer work for police department? Dink Somebody will give you your's too , bitch.
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How long til the deputies can get back to work? If they continue in that community, or any community that knows their history, they'll get what they have coming. You sound as if you have experience with this. Is that why you no longer work for police department? Dink Somebody will give you your's too , bitch. What is "his", little fella?
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Because it was an injury accident in small town Idaho. Could even be traffic needed directing/redirecting. And I agree with the over involvement. Please have people quit calling the cops to play referee, parent, dog catcher, fee collector, litter patrol, drunk sitter, parking lot attendant, locksmith, loss prevention, etc. I'm all for it. Cops, as they are today, should respond to zero of those calls.
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If they continue in that community, or any community that knows their history, they'll get what they have coming.
The sheriff in a county south of us went through a similar incident years back. The over-trained, under-educated deputies killed a woman when they did a botched raid on the wrong address. Several years later the deputy that pulled the trigger took a .45fmj between his eyes. The drunken shooter scored a bullseye hit from his front porch. It happened in the district I worked for, no tears were shed, nor did we waste our time or take a ladder truck out of service for his funeral. Cops are pretty forgiving of the mistakes of their co-workers, others not so much.
I sincerely hope your kid doesn't choose a permanent career in law enforcement because you are putting some horrendous karma on yourself. Dave
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Somebody will give you your's too , bitch.
Dink sure does make people angry. LMAO. Clark
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One thing that stands out in this is the claim that cameras were present but not rolling. If nothing else comes of this, I hope some law or policy is made to eliminate that excuse in the future. In my world, the camera is always on, and any attempt to disable or interfere with it is a firing offense. Not just "you don't work here anymore", but you're done in this industry. With today's technology and the stakes involved, those cameras should not be allowed to fail - or else... Cameras don't fix schit. They're just feel good non-sense. Travis Ah, there's where you are wrong, my friend. I have direct and repeated experience that audio and video evidence can kill a frivolous lawsuit quicker than a bought-off judge. And also that knowledge that the camera is always rolling is effective motivation to make it a habit to act professionally. No - it's not a cure-all, but the camera makes a huge difference.
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One thing that stands out in this is the claim that cameras were present but not rolling. If nothing else comes of this, I hope some law or policy is made to eliminate that excuse in the future. In my world, the camera is always on, and any attempt to disable or interfere with it is a firing offense. Not just "you don't work here anymore", but you're done in this industry. With today's technology and the stakes involved, those cameras should not be allowed to fail - or else... Cameras don't fix schit. They're just feel good non-sense. Travis Ah, there's where you are wrong, my friend. I have direct and repeated experience that audio and video evidence can kill a frivolous lawsuit quicker than a bought-off judge. And also that knowledge that the camera is always rolling is effective motivation to make it a habit to act professionally. No - it's not a cure-all, but the camera makes a huge difference. Not really. People still see what they want to see. Look at the alton sterling shooting Then if for some reason your camera doesn't catch something due to positiining (think vehicles, the action very often doesn't happen right in front of the lens) then people are accused of purposefully praking to preclude video capture
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After the one deputy getting fired for what was caught on a dash cam, he was sure not to make that mistake twice, coincidence, I don't think so.
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Not really. People still see what they want to see.
Look at the alton sterling shooting That's more the exception than the rule. I'd think that 99% of the time that dash cams / body cams reinforce the cop's story and shut down the lies from drunks/felons and unnecessary force accusations.
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To sum this up, Jack is still dead, the cops over reacted to a drunk shooting a rifle.
Curdog and Aces are ordering Micah Johnson shirts and coffee cups off of Zazzle and Mirage is still pissed about living in a trailer with his mom.
That about it?
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One thing that stands out in this is the claim that cameras were present but not rolling. If nothing else comes of this, I hope some law or policy is made to eliminate that excuse in the future. In my world, the camera is always on, and any attempt to disable or interfere with it is a firing offense. Not just "you don't work here anymore", but you're done in this industry. With today's technology and the stakes involved, those cameras should not be allowed to fail - or else... Cameras don't fix schit. They're just feel good non-sense. Travis Ah, there's where you are wrong, my friend. I have direct and repeated experience that audio and video evidence can kill a frivolous lawsuit quicker than a bought-off judge. And also that knowledge that the camera is always rolling is effective motivation to make it a habit to act professionally. No - it's not a cure-all, but the camera makes a huge difference. Not really. People still see what they want to see. Look at the alton sterling shooting There are always exceptions. And it depends on the quality of information recorded. But overall, cameras make a difference. The more, the better. IME, video more often keeps things from even getting to court. When faced with the evidence, the guilty or false accuser usually folds. Then there's the effect on overall professionalism. Those of us with cameras pointed at us 100% of the time tend to act more professionally. That has an added effects of the group being looked upon more favorably. Virtually every time one of my brothers is in direct conflict with a member of the public, a lawsuit is threatened and/or filed against us. Those used to be hard to defend. Now we win almost all of them. Many are dropped early on. We know that the camera is always rolling, so we make damned sure that the evidence will be in our favor. In other words, we are focused on doing it right.
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Missed your edit... Then if for some reason your camera doesn't catch something due to positiining (think vehicles, the action very often doesn't happen right in front of the lens) then people are accused of purposefully praking to preclude video capture
Easy to remedy. Yes - more expensive, but worth it.
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Not really. People still see what they want to see.
Look at the alton sterling shooting That's more the exception than the rule. I'd think that 99% of the time that dash cams / body cams reinforce the cop's story and shut down the lies from drunks/felons and unnecessary force accusations. And this is a point that I think some of you are missing. The more times the accused is vindicated by audio/video evidence, the more widely the whole group are viewed as ethical professionals by the general public (there will always be rabble rousers). The way things are right now, there isn't much trust by a large portion of the public.
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To sum this up, Jack is still dead, the cops over reacted to a drunk shooting a rifle.
Curdog and Aces are ordering Micah Johnson shirts and coffee cups off of Zazzle and Mirage is still pissed about living in a trailer with his mom.
That about it? Pretty much. And some of us are still afraid of cameras.
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And this is a point that I think some of you are missing. The more times the accused is vindicated by audio/video evidence, the more widely the whole group are viewed as ethical professionals by the general public (there will always be rabble rousers). The way things are right now, there isn't much trust by a large portion of the public.
That only happens if the media releases the video when the police are exonerated. They don't.
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And this is a point that I think some of you are missing. The more times the accused is vindicated by audio/video evidence, the more widely the whole group are viewed as ethical professionals by the general public (there will always be rabble rousers). The way things are right now, there isn't much trust by a large portion of the public.
That only happens if the media releases the video when the police are exonerated. They don't. Maybe you missed it, but no one needs "the media" to release anything these days. Besides - I think we are not far enough into the use of such devices yet to establish any such pattern. If we were, those cameras would have been rolling.Anyway - you are wrong.... examples
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I had to google Zazzle.
And I still think cameras are a waste of money.
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So did I. And I still think cameras are a waste of money.
Dave We heard all the arguments against them here too. Same with random drug testing. I wish neither were needed, but I'm glad we have both. Much better work environment, now that they're here.
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Somebody will give you your's too , bitch.
Dink sure does make people angry. LMAO. Clark Darn it! I thought he was referring to my retirement check someday. Dink
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And I still think cameras are a waste of money.
Dave For 99% of LEO's, they are. But 88% of the public want them, apparently. It's a free country, though, so cops that hate them are just as free to find other work as I am free to reject work that requires me getting random drug tests or finger printed and background checked. Not that I have anything to hide, I just object to the intrusion so I find other gigs.
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