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Supposedly one of the Cox family was involved in the Pat Garrett murder, which is still unsolved. Great stories and history.
Bob Rob Cox told me that he thought that one of his father's cowboys had probably killed Pat Garrett. Garrett had alienated the Cox Ranch folks by hiding his buckboard in the brush nearby one morning until all of the men had gone out to work. He then entered the big house unannounced, with his gun in hand, in an attempt to arrest a teenager that was one of the household staff. The boy was well-liked and apparently no one had any idea that he was wanted. When the boy saw Garrett coming into the kitchen, he dove out of a window as Garrett fired several shots at him. Old Man Cox was incensed that Garrett would barge into his house and discharge his weapon at an unarmed youth, severely frightening all of the women that had remained. Apparently, his anger (and that of his ranch hands) did not subside as time went on and only became more intense. At that time it was common for law enforcement to get paid for each arrest of someone wanted by the law. Pat Garrett was thinking of his wallet that day!
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I'm through the WWII part of Charlie's life and I still don't hate him. 
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I just finished "Unrepentant Sinner" and didn't come away with the impression Askins liked killing but rather had no compunction about it and didn't waste time being racked with guilt for using violence against those who would have wrought it upon him. That, and it didn't bother him to talk or write about it.
I never knew the man other than through his writings. I liked much of his stuff, I suppose largely because he wrote fairly well and he had some extremely cool left handed rifles. His writings were always interesting.
Chronographs, bore scopes and pattern boards have broke a lot of hearts.
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I finished the book yesterday and still have like him. Matter of fact would've loved to have met him,might have had a lively conversation. 
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I have read several places where it was thought Deacon Jim Miller had murdered Garrett..
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Some days it takes most of the day for me to do practically nothing...
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I was Askins' host at Kimber of Oregon.
He was a prick. I'm glad he is dead.
Period.
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I was Askins' host at Kimber of Oregon.
He was a prick. I'm glad he is dead.
Period.
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I was Askins' host at Kimber of Oregon.
He was a prick. I'm glad he is dead.
Period.
No need to hold back, let us know how you really feel... DF That's it.  kd
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Askins was a serious magnumaniac. In THE HUNTERS RIFLE he refers to the 7x57 as being too puny to be any great shakes as a hunting round and he calls the .358 Win. an adequate round for small rodents. And in "SINNER" he calls both the .270 and .30-06 puny and he denigrates both Whelen and O'Connor for recommending the .270. He was about right in line with his pal Elmer.
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Askins was a serious magnumaniac. In THE HUNTERS RIFLE he refers to the 7x57 as being too puny to be any great shakes as a hunting round and he calls the .358 Win. an adequate round for small rodents. And in "SINNER" he calls both the .270 and .30-06 puny and he denigrates both Whelen and O'Connor for recommending the .270. He was about right in line with his pal Elmer. Man, what would he have to say about Csmpfire Stunt shooters??? DF
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Plenty. 
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About half way through "Unrepentant". I don't think he had respect for the sanctity of life at least in his early years.
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Askins was a serious magnumaniac. In THE HUNTERS RIFLE he refers to the 7x57 as being too puny to be any great shakes as a hunting round and he calls the .358 Win. an adequate round for small rodents. And in "SINNER" he calls both the .270 and .30-06 puny and he denigrates both Whelen and O'Connor for recommending the .270. He was about right in line with his pal Elmer. He called the .270 a "pipsqueak." Got a kick out of that. He used the .358 in Vietnam when he was stationed there. IIRC he shot a Gaur with it and again IIRC he lost the animal.
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He lost that Tiger with the .358 too. It sounded to me like he hit it hard with it somersaulting backwards at the shot.
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Was reading a WWII vets story of his service. In it he mentions an unnamed Lt.Col. who was driving his jeep and leading a tank recovery vehicle into a quiet area of the front lines. Stopped by troops , the Lt.Col. only left when a Thompson SMG armed Sgt threatened to "gut" if he didn't leave immediately.
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About half way through "Unrepentant". I don't think he had respect for the sanctity of life at least in his early years.
Not all life is sacred.
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Was reading a WWII vets story of his service. In it he mentions an unnamed Lt.Col. who was driving his jeep and leading a tank recovery vehicle into a quiet area of the front lines. Stopped by troops , the Lt.Col. only left when a Thompson SMG armed Sgt threatened to "gut" if he didn't leave immediately. He rose no higher than Major in WWII.
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