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My nephew wanted to try out some different caliber rifles so I pulled a selection out of the safe including my .338 LH Stainless Classic for him to try. Grabbed a box of Remington 225 grain factory loads for it and met him at the range. We worked our way up from the .270 and I set him up with the .338. First shot I thought I noticed a little smoke from the action before he ejected the case. He put a 2 more through it and I notice he's having a hard time getting the bolt back. I figure inexperience. So I take a seat behind the gun and load up 3 rounds. First 2 shots the bolt is sticky, third shot I had to wack the bolt handle with my hand to get it to start back. I look at the cases and notice a shinny ring just ahead of the belt on a couple and a bit of soot on two more. Enough of that so I case it up. Cleaning things up tonight I take a closer look at things. Here's what my bolt face looks like now. The culprits
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WLRP or WLRMP I'm presuming? Or are those factory Remington??? Sorry to hear that..
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WLRP or WLRMP I'm presuming? Or are those factory Remington??? Sorry to hear that.. He did say he grabbed a box Remington 225gr factory ammo too shoot in it..
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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Nope. It was an unopened box of factory Remington 225 grain Core Loct loads. Not sure how old, this century for certain. Looking over the rest of the unfired ammo I find a few small spots of green corrosion on the brass. Wonder if corrosion in the primer pocket would cause it? Never had a primer leak before.
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WLRP or WLRMP I'm presuming? Or are those factory Remington??? Sorry to hear that.. He did say he grabbed a box Remington 225gr factory ammo too shoot in it..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Nope. It was an unopened box of factory Remington 225 grain Core Loct loads. Not sure how old, this century for certain. Looking over the rest of the unfired ammo I find a few small spots of green corrosion on the brass. Wonder if corrosion in the primer pocket would cause it? Never had a primer leak before. Around 2010-2011 Remington had a bad Batch primers.:
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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Remington also had primer problems in the mid 80's. Problem at that time was pin holes at the corners.
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I'm going to contact Remington to see what their response is. I'm sure it'll be something not of their fault.
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I'd send the ammo, bolt and request reimbursement for a new rifle too!
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... ... The machining on that bolt face was done by a hack.
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I agree with pal. I'm wondering it tmitch can send it back to Winchester for repair??
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Kinda doubtful? It's a left hand Stainless Classic from the mid '90s.
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I don't know why it couldn't be tig welded and machined back.
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I don't know why it couldn't be tig welded and machined back. Agree.
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Looks like some amateur has already tried to make a repair to that bolt face.
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No, I bought the rifle new. Had my dealer order it from the distributor. Winchester's machining of stainless at that time wan't the best and a strong side light plus 10x magnification makes it look worse. It's not much different (except the gas cut) than the 4 other SS M70s I have. The two CM M70s I have are better. Never having dealt with this kind of issue before, what does the gas cut hurt other than looks? Regardless I'll have to either have it looked at by the local Winchester repair center or call Winchester and see if they still work on that vintage M70. Apparently more happened than just the gas cutting. I mentioned hard extraction on the last couple shots, so I tried a couple empty cases fired from this rifle prior to this happening. They will chamber but won't extract without a good rap with the heel of my hand. The cases then have a bright spot at the top rear like there's a burr on the edge of the chamber.
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I don't know why it couldn't be tig welded and machined back. Agree. +1
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No, I bought the rifle new. Had my dealer order it from the distributor. Winchester's machining of stainless at that time wan't the best and a strong side light plus 10x magnification makes it look worse. It's not much different (except the gas cut) than the 4 other SS M70s I have. The two CM M70s I have are better. Never having dealt with this kind of issue before, what does the gas cut hurt other than looks? Regardless I'll have to either have it looked at by the local Winchester repair center or call Winchester and see if they still work on that vintage M70. Apparently more happened than just the gas cutting. I mentioned hard extraction on the last couple shots, so I tried a couple empty cases fired from this rifle prior to this happening. They will chamber but won't extract without a good rap with the heel of my hand. The cases then have a bright spot at the top rear like there's a burr on the edge of the chamber. Sorry to hear that. Hopefully Winchester can repair it. When is FN going to start building LH models???
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Me too! I got on the Winchester website and the only exclusions they list for service are model 12, 42 and 94/9422s. I'll call them in the morning and see what they say. I kinda doubt FN will make a lefty, and quite frankly, if they build them off shore like the rightys I wouldn't buy one anyway. Of course I probably wouldn't buy one regardless because I have more than enough now. Still thinking of turning the extra .300 into a .264 though.
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Good thinking tmitch. I concur with your reasoning...
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