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Re: 450 Bushmaster??? 2muchgun #11398508 08/25/16
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 46,245 Oklahoma G gunner500 Campfire 'Bwana
gunner500 Campfire 'Bwana G Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 46,245 Oklahoma	Ya, the blue follower will convert most metal 20/30 round AR mags to 450B just fine. Trump Won!

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Re: 450 Bushmaster??? R_H_Clark #11398573 08/25/16
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 15,565 Michigun 2muchgun Campfire Ranger
2muchgun Campfire Ranger Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 15,565 Michigun	Yes I have had no trouble with them. Took the 450 out a few weeks ago. Will hunt with it this year....... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrgpZ0fUixs

Re: 450 Bushmaster??? R_H_Clark #11398606 08/25/16
Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 2,579 SW PA T tarheelpwr Campfire Regular
tarheelpwr Campfire Regular T Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 2,579 SW PA	How are the collapse able stocks holding up to the recoil? I couldn't get past that mentally, so what's real world application proven?

Re: 450 Bushmaster??? 2muchgun #11398612 08/25/16
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 46,245 Oklahoma G gunner500 Campfire 'Bwana
gunner500 Campfire 'Bwana G Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 46,245 Oklahoma	Initially only fired the Hornady bullet for the brass in the early days, 450B brass was unobtanum early on, never used it on game, how does that rubber tipped Hornady perform on deer/pigs? Trump Won!

Re: 450 Bushmaster??? R_H_Clark #11398647 08/25/16
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2muchgun Campfire Ranger Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 15,565 Michigun	Well, I have only used it on one deer and it worked great. Have only had gun not quite a year so far. Just now got it how I want it. I wouldn't hesitate to use it on anything this side of a big bear. For that, I would feel better with the Barnes 275 grain, which is what some bush pilots/guides are using I guess. This is what it looked like new when I got it.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrgpZ0fUixs

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Re: 450 Bushmaster??? jimmyp #11398822 08/26/16
Joined: May 2002 Posts: 9,526 Vic_in_Va Campfire Outfitter
Vic_in_Va Campfire Outfitter Joined: May 2002 Posts: 9,526	Originally Posted by jimmyp whose barrel and bolt did you use in yours? I assume a std. upper receiver and bolt carrier? It is a Tromix upper and BCG. It is the bottom rifle, and it has evolved a little since that pic was taken. Minor changes. Troy fixed sights and a Magpul grip.

Re: 450 Bushmaster??? gunner500 #11398900 08/26/16
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 57,475 Alaska R rost495 Campfire Kahuna
rost495 Campfire Kahuna R Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 57,475 Alaska	Originally Posted by gunner500 Is your 50B a .500 or .510" round Rost? and do they make a copper Barnes for it? Those Barnes' at 2400 in my 450B really do a bang up job for some unknown reason, everyone knows .451" and only 245 grs isn't going to break any sec den records, and neither is 2400 fps. Alexander arms barrel, IE Walther. Not the best in teh world. A bit more than MOA but its ok enough i guess. Not sure on the bore size, but I shoot 275 Barnes X flying ashtrays in the 16 inch tube. If I carry it in AK I run a bigger bullet, and sometimes not even barnes, something more along the lines of FMJ type, forget which one on that as I have not taken it there in a while. I expect performance wise there isn't any difference at all between the 450/458 and the 50. Don't see how there could be. We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....

Re: 450 Bushmaster??? R_H_Clark #11399432 08/26/16
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deerstalker Campfire Outfitter Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 14,039 North of Bonners Ferry ID.	Originally Posted by R_H_Clark Originally Posted by jimmyp well Mr. Clark many of us are struck from time to time with Gunitus. I would just buy the one you want, reload for it and have a ball. I have a 6.8SPC, does it kill any better than a 223? does a 308 kill better, does a 300WM, does a 358...sometimes its only in our minds but this is what we do and what we enjoy doing! Have at it! That's exactly it Jimmy. I have plenty of deer and hog guns. I just don't have anything larger than a 7mm mag. Don't need one but want something that throws heavy bullets for some insane reason. I also like light and fast handling so the recoil combination may wind up sending it down the road just as fast as I dreamed it up.LOL have i got a deal for you. fast handling and light weight! check out my 95 marlin in the classifieds. 45-70 guide gun. i have , with this particular gun, taken 3 white tail, 1 moose, 2 elk and one skunk! you really don't want to shoot a skunk in the garage with a 45-70! not a AR but very accurate. reason i am selling it apart from having 2 more like it is i have the 458 socom and am going to blood it in a few weeks, and it (the marlin doesn't smell skunky). Last edited by deerstalker; 08/26/16. the consolidation of the states into one vast republic, sure to be aggressive abroad and despotic at home, will be the certain precursor of that ruin which has overwhelmed all those that have preceded. Robert E Lee ~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~

Re: 450 Bushmaster??? R_H_Clark #11399474 08/26/16
Joined: May 2002 Posts: 9,526 Vic_in_Va Campfire Outfitter
Vic_in_Va Campfire Outfitter Joined: May 2002 Posts: 9,526	Quote I expect performance wise there isn't any difference at all between the 450/458 and the 50. Don't see how there could be. I agree. There's probably not any practical field performance differences. The only reason I chose .458 SOCOM was that I had everything but cases, owing both a .45-70 and .44 mag, so powder, primer, and bullets were already in stock.

Re: 450 Bushmaster??? R_H_Clark #11402272 08/27/16
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 15,565 Michigun 2muchgun Campfire Ranger
2muchgun Campfire Ranger Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 15,565 Michigun	DPMS lower/BM upper....... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrgpZ0fUixs

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Re: 450 Bushmaster??? R_H_Clark #11403564 08/28/16
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,108 cumminscowboy Campfire Tracker
cumminscowboy Campfire Tracker Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,108	its too bad someone can't come up with some great other AR specific rounds with one those 2 large cases. a full line of .22, 24, 25, 28 calibers on either the socom or bushy case.

Re: 450 Bushmaster??? rost495 #11405262 08/29/16
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 46,965 Iowa R RickyD Campfire 'Bwana
RickyD Campfire 'Bwana R Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 46,965 Iowa	Originally Posted by rost495 Originally Posted by gunner500 Is your 50B a .500 or .510" round Rost? and do they make a copper Barnes for it? Those Barnes' at 2400 in my 450B really do a bang up job for some unknown reason, everyone knows .451" and only 245 grs isn't going to break any sec den records, and neither is 2400 fps. Alexander arms barrel, IE Walther. Not the best in teh world. A bit more than MOA but its ok enough i guess. Not sure on the bore size, but I shoot 275 Barnes X flying ashtrays in the 16 inch tube. If I carry it in AK I run a bigger bullet, and sometimes not even barnes, something more along the lines of FMJ type, forget which one on that as I have not taken it there in a while. I expect performance wise there isn't any difference at all between the 450/458 and the 50. Don't see how there could be. It's a .500. Barnes also makes the 325 and 375 grains. I've loaded them all and they shoot well. I've gone to using 1680 for all the Barnes bullets and also the 300 grain Gold Dot and 334 Rainer. We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth? Immersing oneself in progressive lieberalism is no different than bathing in the sewage of Hell.

Re: 450 Bushmaster??? R_H_Clark #11412597 09/01/16
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TonyRumore Campfire Regular T Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 656 USA	FWIW, we sell a lot more .458's than we do .450's....at a ratio of about ten to one. And almost all of the .450's are sold to guys in Michigan that are only buying them because they can use a straight walled case for shooting deer in the shotgun zone, and can't use the .458. The .375 SOCOM keeps gaining momentum for us and will likely outsell the .450BM by the end of they year. Compared to the big three, the .375 SOCOM has some legs on it, easily getting out to 250 yards or so with plenty of wallop to back it up. Tony Rumore Tromix Run it up, until you blow it up, then back it down a bit.

Re: 450 Bushmaster??? TonyRumore #11412609 09/01/16
Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 2,579 SW PA T tarheelpwr Campfire Regular
tarheelpwr Campfire Regular T Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 2,579 SW PA	Originally Posted by TonyRumore FWIW, we sell a lot more .458's than we do .450's....at a ratio of about ten to one. And almost all of the .450's are sold to guys in Michigan that are only buying them because they can use a straight walled case for shooting deer in the shotgun zone, and can't use the .458. The .375 SOCOM keeps gaining momentum for us and will likely outsell the .450BM by the end of they year. Compared to the big three, the .375 SOCOM has some legs on it, easily getting out to 250 yards or so with plenty of wallop to back it up. Tony Rumore Tromix Are you starting to see any more support on the factory ammo side with the .375 Socom? Do you know if Barnes will be offering an application specific TTSX? Last edited by tarheelpwr; 09/01/16.

Re: 450 Bushmaster??? RickyD #11412624 09/01/16
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 46,245 Oklahoma G gunner500 Campfire 'Bwana
gunner500 Campfire 'Bwana G Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 46,245 Oklahoma	Originally Posted by RickyD Originally Posted by rost495 Originally Posted by gunner500 Is your 50B a .500 or .510" round Rost? and do they make a copper Barnes for it? Those Barnes' at 2400 in my 450B really do a bang up job for some unknown reason, everyone knows .451" and only 245 grs isn't going to break any sec den records, and neither is 2400 fps. Alexander arms barrel, IE Walther. Not the best in teh world. A bit more than MOA but its ok enough i guess. Not sure on the bore size, but I shoot 275 Barnes X flying ashtrays in the 16 inch tube. If I carry it in AK I run a bigger bullet, and sometimes not even barnes, something more along the lines of FMJ type, forget which one on that as I have not taken it there in a while. I expect performance wise there isn't any difference at all between the 450/458 and the 50. Don't see how there could be. It's a .500. Barnes also makes the 325 and 375 grains. I've loaded them all and they shoot well. I've gone to using 1680 for all the Barnes bullets and also the 300 grain Gold Dot and 334 Rainer. 10-4 Men, that old bonded 325 gr Speer hp bullet would be a fine sd/entry/hunting bullet too, used to smash the hell out of deer and pigs with it saboted in an old 54 cal MK-85 inline over 120 grs P pyrodex, don't remember the velocity, but it held together and penetrated fully. Trump Won!

Re: 450 Bushmaster??? TonyRumore #11412627 09/01/16
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gunner500 Campfire 'Bwana G Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 46,245 Oklahoma	The 375 SOCOM sounds like a hell of a lot of bang for the buck Tony. Trump Won!

Re: 450 Bushmaster??? TonyRumore #11412763 09/01/16
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 15,565 Michigun 2muchgun Campfire Ranger
2muchgun Campfire Ranger Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 15,565 Michigun	Originally Posted by TonyRumore FWIW, we sell a lot more .458's than we do .450's....at a ratio of about ten to one. Tony Rumore Tromix Laffin'. C'mon now, Tony. Of course you do. And you push the 458 at a greater than 10-1 ratio also. That's almost like BMFI coming on here and saying they sell more 450s than 458s......... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrgpZ0fUixs

Re: 450 Bushmaster??? gunner500 #11413097 09/02/16
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 46,965 Iowa R RickyD Campfire 'Bwana
RickyD Campfire 'Bwana R Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 46,965 Iowa	Quote 10-4 Men, that old bonded 325 gr Speer hp bullet would be a fine sd/entry/hunting bullet too, used to smash the hell out of deer and pigs with it saboted in an old 54 cal MK-85 inline over 120 grs P pyrodex, don't remember the velocity, but it held together and penetrated fully. I've got 30-40 of those loaded, too. They shoot well but are difficult to locate, though I've only sporadically looked. I'm pretty well stocked on components and will be making them into rounds shortly. We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth? Immersing oneself in progressive lieberalism is no different than bathing in the sewage of Hell.

Re: 450 Bushmaster??? RickyD #11413344 09/02/16
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 46,245 Oklahoma G gunner500 Campfire 'Bwana
gunner500 Campfire 'Bwana G Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 46,245 Oklahoma	Originally Posted by RickyD Quote 10-4 Men, that old bonded 325 gr Speer hp bullet would be a fine sd/entry/hunting bullet too, used to smash the hell out of deer and pigs with it saboted in an old 54 cal MK-85 inline over 120 grs P pyrodex, don't remember the velocity, but it held together and penetrated fully. I've got 30-40 of those loaded, too. They shoot well but are difficult to locate, though I've only sporadically looked. I'm pretty well stocked on components and will be making them into rounds shortly. Sounds like a good deal, I always wondered if they'd feed in an AR style 50 cal rifle. I may have a few out in the shop, you want em I'll send em to you. Trump Won!

Re: 450 Bushmaster??? R_H_Clark #11413519 09/02/16
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RandyR Campfire Regular Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,650 Wi,	I ran the 200gr ftx 338ME and deer ran a helluva long ways. Might be ok for shoulder shots but in the lungs they ran far. "Jerry is dead, Phish suck time to get a job "

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