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The Partition works just fine without a plastic tip on it.
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Mr. Nosler would turn over if they changed it.
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Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell Proper bullet placement + sufficient penetration = quick, clean kill. Finn Aagard
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I caught a pig that weighed 204 lbs Saturday. Backed off 100 yards. Shot him with a 150 GameKing out of a 308. Bullet went through both shoulders and kept going.
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hanco,
In fact John Nosler made his son and grandson promise they'd never change the Partition. Which is why the AccuBond became the plastic-tipped equivalent--that, and the previous introduction (and extreme success) of the Ballistic Tip.
These days there are even Ballistic Tips that act much like Partitions when they hit game.
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A while back the ogives changed on the Hornady 150 grain 308 and 139 grain 7mm flat bases and neither one shoots the same for me. For deer hunting at my range limitations it doesn't really matter much, but it still bugs me. Rule #1: When you find something you LIKE, buy an truckload of it, because they probably won't be making it next week. That is some excellent advice right there! Besides, I've never heard anyone complain about having too many bullets.
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Yes Sir, I agree on the Nosler ballistic tip. Best thing is the different color tips. I have 7 rem mags, 264 Win mags, 270 Weatherby and had a 7mm Weatherby. I worry about lighting off a 7mag in a 264. I have killed many deer and pigs with ballistic tips. They are great. I used nothing but partitions for years. It's the best ever made in my opinion. It is what I take on trophy hunts.
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hanco,
In fact John Nosler made his son and grandson promise they'd never change the Partition. Which is why the AccuBond became the plastic-tipped equivalent--that, and the previous introduction (and extreme success) of the Ballistic Tip.
These days there are even Ballistic Tips that act much like Partitions when they hit game. I know you've mentioned it before, but where do the tougher BTs begin? Is it strictly by caliber, or is it by weight within the same caliber (excluding ones designated as "Varmint" of course). Thanks.
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I know for sure any from the 165 .30 on up have the really heavy jacket, at least 60% of the overall bullet weight, but there are some pretty stout ones below that as well.
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I really like the 180 Ballistic tips in my 338 Federal. I have about 150 left and then I'll have to switch to Accubonds.
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I know for sure any from the 165 .30 on up have the really heavy jacket, at least 60% of the overall bullet weight, but there are some pretty stout ones below that as well.
I guess a person could always buy a sample pack and disassemble one.
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But then one enters into the vast unknown of the secret world of when manufacturers change bullet design/construction without letting the consumer in on the change.
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True, but it's a heck of a lot closer to the egress of that world than trying to find the answer on internet forums.
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True, but it's a heck of a lot closer to the egress of that world than trying to find the answer on internet forums. Are you telling me that I can't trust all my pals here who say the 120gr 7mm BTip is a tough, awesome bullet??
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How would your pals know when manufacturers change bullet design/construction without letting the consumer in on the change?
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How would you know that they haven't changed the design since you dissected one. Guess you could test every box you buy?
BTW, I sympathize with your frustration that they "covertly " change the designs.
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