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No, it wasn't our "own people", it was in large part because we let in other kinds of people with different ideas of what government is and should be than Americans.

"We, the People" have allowed the politicians to distort & bastardize the Constitution for their own benefit.

Tar, feathers & rails should become vogue again................

MM

Why? Because it is unsuited for other kinds of people and we've been letting them in by the bushels for a long dang time.

No doubt, and perhaps it would be wise to ask an American Indian their opinions on uncontrolled borders. History repeats again....

I would if I could find one.

No, it wasn't our "own people", it was in large part because we let in other kinds of people with different ideas of what government is and should be than Americans.

I would if I could find one.

Arguably the stupidest and most dangerously ignorant statement since the sad day you joined this Forum..

Who the hell are you even talking about??? The vast majority of people in this county aren't direct decedents of the founders, including myself. I served and gave an oarth to give my life for the Constitution if needed, just like millions of other people in this country. We as a people have allowed what has happened. Your generalizations are useless.

The Constitution was designed to promulgate and maintain 18th Century English government and to maintain the rights of Englishmen living in America...Americans. It has failed to maintain those rights, preserve that form of government, and to check government power. Why? Because it is unsuited for other kinds of people and we've been letting them in by the bushels for a long dang time.

America is not an idea. It is not a principle. It was a country in which Americans lived and Americans were a race descended from that cultural stock here at the time of the Revolution.

The Constitution has not failed it's people.

The People have failed the Constitution. Very simply.

Anything else is just an excuse.

How can a people prevail when they are swamped by foreigners and foreign ideas and most of them don't even realize it?

If we were to consider methods of achieving gun confiscation, agents of the federal government would not have to perform the physical task of confiscation. It could achieve disarmament via other methods. The feds could starve Americans into compliance (see Stalin's forced famine and the Iranian genocide). If all food and fuel shipments were denied delivery, it wouldn't be long before most Americans surrendered their guns in exchange for food vouchers so they could feed their families. Stockpiling food would not have the desired effect of sustaining families. In would incite others to attempt to take from those who have, which would be passively encouraged by government for it would hasten the outcome of gun confiscation. It would turn Americans against each other, which would benefit only government's objective of total disarmament.

I do not envision another civil war in America.

The same way you deal with that fishy smell in the kitchen.

You take out the trash.

time people learned to grow their own food

The Constitution is a document. It has zero power if our leaders don't enforce it.

And that's why we've failed. As long as the dominant culture was one of descendants of white Englishmen, we were able to keep it together, but letting in others started it downhill. Constitutional government of the type we have is an anomoly. Find it anywhere but in an English speaking country. You won't. The idea that government is limited in the way we think is almost exclusively an English one. Even in Europe, their modern constitutions run to hundreds of pages detailing mundane things in life. Other countries more or less copied ours and then promptly ignore them. But in England they cited the Constitution and followed it without even having a written one. In the US we used ours to preserve English government at the height of its perfection, the 18th century separation of powers model.

Consider this. The Supreme Court that we all despise right now is made up of Catholics and Jews. There is nothing wrong with either group and most are fine people. But both were almost completely absent from 18th Century Britain and America. In Britain, Catholics were formally excluded from the country and subject to periodic persecution through the 18th century and not allowed to hold oublic office again until the 19th. Jews were expelled by Richard II and weren't seen back in England in any numbers until the 19th. In America Catholics were more or less confined to one colony and persecuted everywhere else and Jews were welcomed as merchants but had little influence.

This isn't to say that these people are bad, it is merely to point out that for that very important two hundred years or so before the American Revolution where the ideas of English Liberty really took root, these people weren't only absent from it, they were hostile to it. The Spanish Armada was about putting a Catholic back on the throne of England. The thought that a king might be a secret Catholic was enough for a revolution in 1688 that saw him deposed.

And yet today, the descendants of these people who were completely absent from the cultural heritage that gave us our Constitution are trying to tell us what 18th century English country gentlemen meant when they wrote it? Is it any wonder that for the most part they discount it and in many cases seem actively hostile to the clear intent of the founders?