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Aaaahhh.... Seems as if something doesn't add up here?!?!?!

I don't know about ya'll, but the above sure seems like tinkering to me. 'Course Swampy knows everything there is to know about single shot rifles..... Even tho' he's never owned a Ruger #1, a Winchester Hi-Wall, a Dakota 10, etc....

'Course, I don't know nuthin', even tho' I have Ruger #1's in might near every caliber that NEF's come in. And a whole bunch that they don't. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Not to mention some Hi-Wall's, Lo-Walls, C-Sharps, Brownings, CZ, et.al. Nossir! I guess I just have to bow to the guru!

However I did own a NEF, Once! I believe once is enough. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

[color:"green"]Grasshopper [/color]

Nope, you don't know squat... and neither does 1B... 'cause all those #1s, and other single shots he has couldn't hold a candle to a Handi... and couldn't shoot with 'em either...

Y'all best just box 'em all up and send 'em to me; to get them away from you before you're stricken for life. I'll take one... or a dozen... or a hundred... for the team... someone has to, right?

VA,

I guess I'd have to send them to you. No one else will take them. Swampy sure wouldn't.....

Do you want them all at once, or just one at a time? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

[color:"green"] Grasshopper [/color]

All at once would work... just drive 'm all down. You can even buy me dinner, just for taking the pain away and helping you out so much... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Swamp, I respect a useful rifle as much as anyone but the Savage/NEF things are just barn rifles. About as attractive as a shovel. Sometimes a shovel is the perfect tool but not really a Sunday-go-to-mass type implement.

The Sharps is a Saturday night-firefight in a bar, all balls rifle.

The Winchester highwall is a classy gentleman's deer rifle.

The rolling block is a romantic, Egyptian revolutionary type of rifle.

The Hepburn is a target rifle even if it has a toilet handle on it.

The Ballard is a Schuetzen rifle.

The Steve Earle Wesson #1 is a hand built masterpiece.

The Martini-Henry is an empire builder, and a gunsmith's wet dream.

The Ruger #1 is God smiling on single shot lovers.

The Martini & Hagn is the best single shot ever to grace the hands of man.

The NEF is a shovel.

SS
Josh

damn right,i'm with you SS- . or a boat paddle for navigating swamps. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

A very accurate, attractive, and reliable shovel. Only the old T/C Contender comes close to being as light, short, accurate, and fun to hunt with.

If I had someone to carry my guns around until I was ready to shoot, some of those others might be nice. But I'd also need someone to "fix" them. Out of the box accuracy is important.

I think I know what Swampman1 is shoveling with his NEF shovel. I may have said this in another post, it's nothing more than a cheap low end top break shotgun action, good for shootn' rats in a barn, has no class, and puttn' a rifle barrel on it does not make it a good or even nice Single Shot Rifle.

No matter what anyone does to it it will still be a cheap top break shotgun action with a rifle barrel on it, not something a real Rifleman would use or even wast his time with.
S/S

Most "Real Rifleman" would say the same thing about any single shot. The NEF isn't for everyone, just experienced woodsmen. "Class" is for women and city folks. I blow my nose on a thunb and a forefinger, not a silk hankie. Pretty 2 to 3 MOA rifles that cost $1000.00-$10,000.00 really aren't my thing.

"Which one of these is the salad fork??? Hell, who eats salad anyway..."

Swampman,

So what are the specs on the super slugger picture you put up?

Spot

If yer lookin' fer a argument, ya done come to the wrong place, well . . . . . . except from swampman1.

So Swampy, tell us about the last $1K to $10K rifle you actually owned yourself that was only 2-3 minute accurate.

If all you can afford is a Handi -- then have at it, but don't diss a better quality rifle just because you can't afford it.

My #1 will shoot minute of angle out of the box with 300 grain Barnes X, Hornady 300 gr FP, and Hornady 300 gr SP. All I did was mount a scope on it and shoot it. And it even shoots 292 grain cast bullets just about as good. Course, it ain't a real thimper like the 30-30. It's a light rifle in 405 Winchester. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Come on now, everyone knows that in the day of "Real Rifleman" there weren't anything but Single Shots, them new fanged "repeaters" weren't invented yet.

"I blow my nose on a thumb and a forefinger" that's disgusting, don't ever shake this guys hand, or for that matter if he's that crude make sure you stay up wind of him.

Most "Real Rifleman" don't need no silk hankie, cotton would do just fine, and at least you did not have to worry about anything if you wanted to shake his hand after him winning a shoot. Like I said, no class. It's apparent that this guy hasn't "been there" or "done that" yet.

I've been shootn' for over 50 years now and have gone through a lot of different guns, my take on them is as follows:

Single Shot Bolt Action Rifles, the most accurate. Bench Rest shooters use them, not very practical for anything other than bench rest shooting.

Falling Blocks. These are the Rifles that are the real Classics, from Target Rifles to Hunting Rifles.

Rolling Blocks, More real classic Rifles from Target Rifles to Hunting Rifles.

I'm sure there are a few others but the cheap NEF top break shotgun type barn guns are not worth the time it takes to load them, ok, they may be alright as a cheap shotgun, but hell they don't even have a greener cross bolt, of course if they did it would be a big improvement in the action, but of course then they wouldn't be cheap.
S/S

"If all you can afford is a Handi -- then have at it, but don't diss a better quality rifle just because you can't afford it."

I don't think there is a better quality rifle. There are more expensive rifles. I've owned several $1000.00+ rifles but none were as fun, or more accurate than my Handi. Keep telling yourself them high dollar guns are better. It will help you feel better.

"If all you can afford is a Handi -- then have at it, but don't diss a better quality rifle just because you can't afford it."

I don't think there is a better quality rifle. There are more expensive rifles. I've owned several $1000.00+ rifles but none were as fun, or more accurate than my Handi. The rifle in the picture is a .30-30. With scope it weighs in at 7lbs and it's 36" long. I was looking for a #3 when I got it, but I actually like it better than the #3 I used to own.

Swampy stated:






Shootist,

Swampy states that it's not the money.... Funny he is the only one that doesn't see what the rest of us do: The only reason to buy a cheap gun when it's "Not the money"... Is because he's too cheap. He want's to play with the big boys, but is too Cheap! If one wants to play with the high rollers, you don't do it playing penny-ante poker.... And there sure " Ain't no Coupe de'Ville hidin' at the bottom of a Cracker Jack box!"

I would suggest if one wants to talk about NEF "shovels" on should go to the NEF forums..... Oh! I forgot, that one "belly up".

When it comes to guns: "Ya gets what ya pay for!" If you're to cheap to spend real money then all you get is "Cheap"... Facts is facts! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> No matter how much you brag them up, it doen't change a thing. (And if you don't believe it; "My dad can whip your dad!") <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

[color:"green"] Grasshopper [/color]

I'm perfectly content to shoot tiny groups with my shovel. I'm thinking about selling my expensive rifles, because I'm not using them anymore.

What have ya got, what's the condition, and how much, I'll check on how much it will cost to have them disinfected.

Being I'm retired, if the price is right I'll make the trip to pick them up, but they will have to be sealed in a plastic bag. ;>)
S/S

Had I a desire for a 30-30 rifle, it would no doubt come in an older Winchester levergun or a Marlin. A single shot 30-30 is like using a pitchfork to shovel sand. No sense in spending money on one of them. Makes good sense to get one for under 2 clams. And putting the fancy walnut off a buffalo classic on the handi-rifle is like putting a $150 dress on a two bit whore. She's still a whore under it all. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

You aren't spending your money efficiently then. I'll put several of my $1000+ rifle against you Handi for accuracy any time you choose. My 40x will shoot sub 0.200 with FGGM. Even my $699 FN PBR XP will turn out 1/4 MOA with handloads all day long.

I go to a lot of matches where the most accurate rifle win and have yet to see a handi.

The handi is what it is - a low cost, reasonably accurate gun - for the money. It's no prize winnner in the accuracy department, or it would be winning matches.

everybody knows that you don't shovel sand with a pitchfork. thats what they make nef handi shovels for.

yee haw,tell it like it is brother.