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I need some ideas on loads to shoot out of my 222 for deer. I would like to get hornady superformance velocities out of the cartridge but can't find any of the load data with their powder. I had considered buying a box pulling the bullet and measuring it out. As far as a bullet goes I've looked at a hornady gmx and Barnes tsx but I've never used a lead free bullet. I'm looking for something with excellent expansion and weight retention similar to the Winchester fail safe.

Before I have have a bunch of people tell me that the 222 isn't suitable for whitetails let me explain my situation. I recently had some things come up and had to part with my more suitable rifles. I hung on to a savage model 24V (which is a 20 gauge over a 222) to put food on the table. I figured it was going to be my best option because I can shoot grouse and squirrel and hope for the occasional shot at a wild boar or deer. I live in North Carolina so the deer are small and the cover is thick limiting shot distance. I'm planning on being very selective with shot placement just as I do when I am bowhunting. I would love a great blood trail but I'm not expecting one from this cartridge luckily I own a excellent blood trailing dog. I'm not looking for reasons not to use it but good constructive comments on load data and bullet selection to aid me in a quick clean kill.

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Assuming the std. 14 twist .222 Rem, Barnes lists their 53 gr. TSX at 3,100 fps over 24 gr. TAC. That would be a good place to start.

The 55 gr. Sierra Gameking or similar would be worth try.

See what the gun likes.

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The 55gr Hornady Spire Point is a good one.I got complete pass through on a 125lb sow I shot behind the shoulder 30yrs ago.It was an impressive DRT shot.Had a lot of bad experiences when I started hunting with the 222 about 50yrs ago.The bullets were so thin jacketed,they were bad about blowing up on impact.I quit shooting behind the shoulder and started shooting the neck and killed them quite well that way.I know there are much better bullets out there today,but I'd give that 55gr Hornady a shot again.


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55 Sierra Gameking.


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Baldhunter I agree that's what I'm trying to avoid. I definitely don't want something that the jacket will separate

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Originally Posted by rustydog
Baldhunter I agree that's what I'm trying to avoid. I definitely don't want something that the jacket will separate

Barnes don't separate... laugh

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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Assuming the std. 14 twist .222 Rem, Barnes lists their 53 gr. TSX at 3,100 fps over 24 gr. TAC. That would be a good place to start


My thoughts exactly........

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It's a deer (Blacktail I assume). They aren't armor plated and the big ones I used to see in the coastal range wouldn't be much more than 125 lbs. The Mule deer up in the Sierra aren't all that big either. Long as you stay away from bullets with a varmint jacket, I don't see how you should have any issues. 14 twist might not stabilize the longer all copper bullets so give them a try and if not, go back to the 55gr soft points. If you call the manufacturers their tech support should be able to recommend the toughest bullet for your application.

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Lot of deer have been killed with .224 bullets.

ingwe will tell you it should be a .223AI/McFlame... shocked

Shrapnel will insist on .222 Mag.

But as Big Stick loves to say, it's the bullet, not the headstamp... grin

Just saying... wink

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The Sierra 63 grain bullets stabilize in my 222 1:14" rifle. They dont shoot as good as the 50 gr bullets, but still average 1" groups.


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I would love to shoot the 63 grain sierras but can spend a lot of money experimenting either

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H4198 and H4895 worked for me.


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my deuce doesn't shoot to well with the heavier class of bullets of 60 plus grains. It will do okay with the 64 grain Nosler solid base and 63 grain sierra. I trust the 63 grain sierra on neck and rib shots but I wouldn't shoot a big buck in the shoulder with one.

64 grain nosler bsb---varget, cfe223, or aa2520.
63 grain sierra flat base ---ww 748

If you really want my opinion I will tell you that you should go lead free like the 50 grain Hornady GMX or barnes TSX the former shooting nice but I haven't shot one into a deer. I shot about 6 of these into milk jugs and one of them failed to expand while the other 5 seemed to have text book mushrooms.

In the past I've shot a bunch of deer with the smaller tsx bullets in the .22 calibers and had problems with the pedals flying off of the bullets somewhere in the deer. I did try the 53 and 55 grain barnes bullets in the 1 in 14 twist but I didn't have consistant results.

The best combination of accuracy and performance that I seemed to find in the 1 in 14 twist was the 45 grain TSX and either h335 or IMR or h-4198. The 4198s can push the little barnes bullet into the low 3300's while the h335 can send it down range in the mid to upper 3300's.

My favorite load is a cci br4, a full length Remington case, 25.5 grains h335 and a 45 grain TSX seated so that I can just see the front drive band of the bullet. Runs about 3350 to 3380 out of my 24 inch barrel. Quick load seems to think that I should be getting 3360 for muzzle velocity at 23.5 grains of the h335 but my gun seems to need about 2 grains more powder to get into the pressure range where the load becomes more accurate and gives the stated velocity.

In the barnes manual they have a picture of a 45 grain tsx that was pulled from the shoulder of a huge buck. It looks like a text book mushroom yet I still don't have complete faith in the ability of that bullet to reliably anchor a really big buck that I shot in the shoulder. I do hunt late season doe with my .222 here in pa but if it's bear season or if I'm hunting where I expect that I might shoot a monster buck I don't take that .222 out....I have shot probably a dozen deer with the .222 since I was a kid (15 years) however I really think that it's a marginal deer round unless you have perfect shot placement with a non bonded bullet that you can shoot into the deer's ribs and get to expend all of it's energy(63 grain sierra).

On one occasion I shot a small buck in the neck with a 53 grain TSX and it was still alive when I drove my quad up to it 5 minutes later. That one took a second shot to finish it. Another time I shot a doe through the shoulder with an another 53 grain TSX. The bullet ripped out the shoulder punched a hole in the heart and exited out the other side of the deer. At the shot the deer took off across a road that was just over a hundred yards away and collapsed about 40 yards on the other side. That deer didn't really even appear to hit or leave anything could be called a blood trail. If I hadn't seen the deer running away on three legs I doubt that I would have known that I hit it and spent the half an hour that it took to find the deer in the swamp that it died in.

I would eventually like to work with a .222 that has a fast enough twist that I sling the heavier bonded lead core bullets. I think that they might be able to shed energy faster than the barnes bullets and as a result knock the deer down faster. But then again if I'm going to do that I might as well go out and buy a .223. On a side note the .222 slinging a barnes bullet really doesn't leave a lot of blood shot meat in a deer. You can almost eat right up to the bullet hole.

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in short 45 or 50 grain barnes seat it to the front front drive band and put as much powder behind it as you can.

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in short 45 or 50 grain barnes seat it to the front front drive band and put as much powder behind it as you can.

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I used a Speer 70 gr. Semi Spitzer over H414.

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I have kilt oodles of deer with 50gr Blitz and 22.2 gr of H322.

I was getting 3000fps. Speed kills.

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From your OP, I see you are in NC. Same here.

When the economy went to [bleep], and I liquidated my arsenal, I kept my 222, and unleashed unholy carnage with it. Head, neck, CNS. DRT.....

You want some 50gr Blitz's? I'll give you a box.

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no doubt the barnes bullets will work but a 222 velocities you will have no issues with the 55 gran hornady Sp or the 63 Sierra either one. IMHO, the standard cup and core bullets kill a bit quicker too.

If money is tight you can buy 55 grain Hornadys for a fraction of what Barnes will cost

Anybody who doubts the 55 Hornadys effectiveness on big game should browse through Scenarshooter's posts

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Rustydog,

I'd also be happy to send you some 55 Hornadys if you like. Pm me if you want some

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