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So we have to shoot a short action cartridge that burns no more than 40-45 gr of powder because none of us can shoot anything burning more powder than that? Honestly where does this stuff come from? I believe the question was what to use for whitetail at 500-600 yards? Maybe a new thread asking why a Magnum works best for whitetail deer would be more appropriate? Use whatever you want Bob nobody is trying to force you into anything 😕 Shod
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I was thinking the same thing Bob.
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"Don't use a magnum because of barrel heat."
Good God... My 270 Weatherby magnum usually has time to cool down while I am walking to my dead critter.
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I have two whitetail tags. Two of the rifles I am building almost made it to the range today to test fire. 15 pounds of 7mmRM.. still looking for a 56mm lens cover. 8 pounds of 6mmBR gear
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23 lbs of whitetail rig. Might get it done.
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I set the bar at 6.5 myself because,while I have used the 25/06 and the Roberts(one of my favorites),I notice they kill well but not with the finality of the bigger calibers when distances get stretched.I never wrapped my head around 6mm's of any sort for large bucks and long range(yes I know they kill them but I have been underwhelmed). I like more bullet weight and frontal area.While the 30 calibers bounce a bit more,they are just genuinely good killers,and I have shot enough 165 gr bullets from a 30/06 to 600 yards,seen it used on elk to 500,to know it will get to 600 yards with enough authority to kill well.Recoil is moderate.The 30/06 with a 165 at 2900+ fps is no toy. This is also my opinion. When I was a fairly young hunter, we were hunting Brewster County in West Texas, very open country near Big Bend park, my hunting partner knocked over a rather small mule deer at 600+ yards. I went with him to retrieve the deer and noted the 140 grainer from a .264 mag did not exit from a broadside hit. This would be unacceptable in a right of way cut through heavy vegetation. [So]I decided I would use heavier bullets when long range opportunities existed. 160 for 7 mag, 165 for .30 because I wanted an exist with some blood. I know that better small caliber light weight bullets have been created, but I havn't came around to using them at long range.
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So we have to shoot a short action cartridge that burns no more than 40-45 gr of powder because none of us can shoot anything burning more powder than that? Honestly where does this stuff come from? I believe the question was what to use for whitetail at 500-600 yards? Maybe a new thread asking why a Magnum works best for whitetail deer would be more appropriate? Use whatever you want Bob nobody is trying to force you into anything 😕 Shod Shod thanks I get that part. It's the never ending (ad nauseous) assertions constantly floating around on here that if it recoils more than a 7/08 no on can shoot and hunt effectively with it. I understand the deer thing. I don't distinguish between deer and elk and antelope and moose etc etc. To me they all fall under the category of "Big Game" and any rifle I hunt with will kill them all or I won't own it. So I'm not bothered with these senseless (to me) subcategories of cartridges intended to be "perfect" for 90-130 pound deer in the next zip code; and then something else for "bigger deer" and "longer distances".....it's silly talk for rifle nut bags.
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first let me say that shots beyond 425 yards require practice and extremely good optics.I have shot many deer at 3 to 350 yards,and a few at 425 or so and a couple at near 500. but these ranges beyond 425 require an advanced understanding of the field conditions where u are hunting,and an even better one about the trajectory of the load u are using. the hardest thing for many shooters is aiming 12 inches in front of a deer knowing the pill will drift 30 inches,or 20 inches over its back knowing that it will drop 30 inches.this takes lots of practice What the magic of 425 yards and what happens at 426 yards? And is it 425 yards with a 30-30 and with a 30-378? the reason i have a 500 yard limit is for kinetic energy requirements with my 270s. the 270 wsm would add a mere 60 or 75 yards and this boy aint shooting no ultra mag or 340 weatherby,or 30-378 at deer How does "kinetic energy" kill?
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A 270 Weatherby Mag with 150 gr AB's at 3200 f.p.s.
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For long range with plenty of power an a stabilized bullett a 264 win mag out weighs almost everything.
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For long range with plenty of power an a stabilized bullett a 264 win mag out weighs almost everything. I always prefer a stabilized bullet sometimes.
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Well, read it all...thinking there would be some consensus...:)
I imagine putting the right bullet in the right spot is the most important correlation to killing deer quickly at 500-600 yards, and the caliber used right near the bottom of the determinants.
One thing is for certain: Jordan, you are a hell of a shot.
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For hunting next month I have 2 whitetail doe tags, one any deer tag, and two antelope tags. I have been working on (5) rifles in the shop full time for 2 weeks and need to leave for long range target practice with the rifles in 3 weeks: 1) expensive rifle Win M70 25-06 2) cheap rifle [$80 so far] Arisaka 99 308 3) lite rifle [6.5 # so far] Rem700 6mmBR 4) heavy rifle Rem700 7mmRemMag 5) original factory barrel Browning B78 25-06 I have the headspace right on the 4 barrels I worked on. The 7mm is waiting for bottom metal to arrive before bedding. The other 4 are pillared and bedded. Last year I built 3 rifles for 3 tags, but after target practice I gave up on one of them and only used the 6.5-06 and 300WM to fill the tags.
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A 4 year old thread. Well why not anyway.
Looking at and comparing all the downrange #s from 100 yards out to say 700-800 yards (using ABLR bullets posted on the ballistics charts on the Nosler site under ammunition for various cartridges) in terms of retained velocity, energy, flatter trajectories, not to mention reduced wind drifts, I gotta go with a 6.5mm as a first choice caliber for long range whitetail hunting.
Cartridge?.......I'll take the 26 Nosler over any other 6.5mm round; including the 264 Win, the Creed, the 6.5/284 to name only three in the 6.5mm dept.
I'll also take the 26 Nosler over the 270 Win, 270 Wby, 270 WSM, 7mm WSM, 280 Rem, 7mm Rem Mag, and the 7mm Wby.
Even though it runs a close 2nd place behind the 6.5/300 Wby, the 26 Nosler nevertheless is my next cartridge chambered in my next rifle,,,a Browning.
28 Nosler,,,,300WSM,,,,338-378 Wby,,,,375 Ruger
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I like the 7mm Mag., but getting old and my old Rem. 700 is heavy and I do not like the recoil. Never been really happy with the 700 anyway. I went to 7mm-08. The 7mms are hard to beat at any distance.
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