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Cut a freebie and suddenly everybody is concerned about government spending.
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People are pissed lol.. I find it funny the people doing the most complaining are the dumbasses that voted for walker..
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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I doubt the reduction in PFD is enough to make some of the dirt bags leave.
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I doubt the reduction in PFD is enough to make some of the dirt bags leave. But it's amazing how many of 'em think there is 'magic money' that's somehow going to come to the rescue. As a state, we've 'married' into a lot of things we can't (or shouldn't) 'divorce'. (Infrastructure paid for with good money - and plenty of it- shouldn't simply be 'mothballed' and allowed to decay.)
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Sometimes, the air you 'let in'matters less than the air you 'let out'.
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When the PDF was $800 some odd dollars in 2014 or 2013 people weren't upset at all people were not crying the blues how the folks in the bush were going to starve to death.. fast forward to today and everyone saying how hard this is going to hit the low income folks blah blah... I think a lot people pissed their [bleep] off money being messed with lol..
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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I'd like to think this may deter some from having babies to collect more PFDs....but then most of those don't think anyway.
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Funny thing is the PFD is probably going to be paid back at a later date due to someone suing based on the unilateral move by Walker...
So Walker pays for his move and it will end up doing no good... it will actually cost in legal fees...
Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.
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Pretty sure you are correct Sitka deer. I wonder if this going to the state Supreme Court?? I don't agree at all what walker did. I hope the fine folks in the north pole area vote coghill out of office, that goes for all the other senators that chose not do anything about it as well.. this was something that should of been put to vote to the residents of Alaska..
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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I just cant believe people are bitching about getting free money. I mean come on, its free money. What happened to saying , Thanks, and just enjoying it?
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I just cant believe people are bitching about getting free money. I mean come on, its free money. What happened to saying , Thanks, and just enjoying it? Exactly, and being thankful we don't have to pay an income of state sales tax. And in case some of the fools which want a perennial 2-Grand don't realize it, the Dividend will automatically be reduced very significantly a few years hence anyway because of the way it is calculated based on a period of time rather than a single year.
Sometimes, the air you 'let in'matters less than the air you 'let out'.
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Pfd is like a drug and the state will have to ween people off of it. But I gladly lose pfd versus paying sales tax and income tax. But those people jumping up and down yelling won't be paying a income tax but will pay a sales tax..
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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And those who think an option like sales tax is a positive thing may not consider that the price of goods affect the tax paid. Therefore, those who live in places where goods cost more.... the more remote areas- will pay more sales tax. And those people are often the ones who already have lower incomes to begin with. To add to the insult, many of the remote parts of the state already have local sales taxes. Finally, the PFD adds to our Federal tax burden. Lowering the amount means less Federal tax. Paying a sales tax or state income tax has a lessor effect on a reduction in Federal tax, if it has any effect at all.
Sometimes, the air you 'let in'matters less than the air you 'let out'.
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"Lowering the amount means less Federal tax. Paying a sales tax or state income tax has a lessor effect on a reduction in Federal tax, if it has any effect at all.[/quote]"
Bingo!......This is the part that most folks don't understand.....Our Governor wants an income tax based on a percentage of Federal Income Tax.....so I pay $300 of my $1K PFD to the Feds as income tax and then the Governor wants a State income tax based on a percentage of the federal tax.....we are really diluting this PFD check and sending our money to Washington DC......WTF?......at least, reducing the PFD tends to keep more of that $$$$ in state.
But I still don't see the budget cuts or hiring freeze.
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