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Really? You gotta go 26 to burn the powder? Hardly. IME with a 24" barrel the 6.5-06 really wont do anything velocity wise with 120 and 140 gr bullets that the 7-08 won't. If you have had different results I'd like to hear them. Except shoot a bullet with a BC of better than .600 at 2950 fps. Or in the AI version, 3050 fps.
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I would take the 280AI in a heart beat.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Yep, because with handloads it'll be right there with the 7RM.
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I assume your talking about 140 gr class bullets. IME with a 24" barrel you have to lean on it to get there my last build was supposed to be a 26" tube and arrived at 241/2 it won't get 2950 with 140's. It's a great cartridge but not one that is usually built for a woods rifle so I would build with a 26" barrel and look for 3000 fps with 140's
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My brother and I both have 6.5-06ai's. His is shooting 140's at 3220. He is on the 6th or 7th loading on that brass. It's a great shooting gun. 26" barrel.
Mine I haven't even shot yet so can't say what the numbers are yet. Hoping mine is as accurate as his is.
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33s I assume your talking about 140 gr class bullets. IME with a 24" barrel you have to lean on it to get there my last build was supposed to be a 26" tube and arrived at 241/2 it won't get 2950 with 140's. It's a great cartridge but not one that is usually built for a woods rifle so I would build with a 26" barrel and look for 3000 fps with 140's Lots of guys get 2950 with a 24" barrel and 140s. MD's load uses 56 grains H-1000. I use 60 grains to get 3050+ with my 24" barreled AI. No sweat.
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My brother and I both have 6.5-06ai's. His is shooting 140's at 3220. He is on the 6th or 7th loading on that brass. It's a great shooting gun. 26" barrel.
Mine I haven't even shot yet so can't say what the numbers are yet. Hoping mine is as accurate as his is.
Regards, Branden Branden, what brass is he using? The primer pockets get loose on mine if I go too much over 3050 with the 24" barrel.
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140's at 3,200 is 26 Nosler territory.
Someone needs to do a Quickload psi analysis on that load.
Gotta be interesting.
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I'd go with a factory 25-06 and shoot Nosler 115BTs for everything. Plenty easy.
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I am having fun with my 25-06 Improved.
Already have a couple 264 WM'S in the safe. Maybe a .280 someday.
A person should really be looking at a 29-06. Then you would really have something.
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Yep, because with handloads it'll be right there with the 7RM. Anything in that category is more OK with me than just about anything else....
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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I'll ask him. I know he tried the same load in mine and it was like 150 fps slower and only around 1 moa. Mine is a 27" barrel. I used his 6.5 this year on a buck since its the most accurate gun we own between us. Wanted to make sure I did everything I could to be successful.
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Tuff, That is an awesome mulie! congradulations
What bullet did you use in your 6.5-06?
Also what range etc...
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Berger 140 grain it was only 225 yards.
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The 6.5-06 is a cool cartridge, I like mine. That said, it really doesn't do anything better than a 25-06, 270, 280 etc for me. I get 3200 with 120s and 3100 with 130s. My last couple 25-06s gave the same speed with 115s as my 6.5-06 does with 120s. If you run the numbers, there's nothing to write home about. I suppose sleek 140s at 3k would make things interesting, but again, when you run the numbers, there's just really nothing there to get giddy about. All will kill just fine, so there's no wrong answer.
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Dang fine buck tuff. Congrats!!
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The 6.5-06 is a cool cartridge, I like mine. That said, it really doesn't do anything better than a 25-06, 270, 280 etc for me. I get 3200 with 120s and 3100 with 130s. My last couple 25-06s gave the same speed with 115s as my 6.5-06 does with 120s. If you run the numbers, there's nothing to write home about. I suppose sleek 140s at 3k would make things interesting, but again, when you run the numbers, there's just really nothing there to get giddy about. All will kill just fine, so there's no wrong answer.
In the finer nuance of the issue though, the 6.5's and 7mm's have substantially higher B/C's But with the lighter bullet the time of flight can be less and cancel out?, (maybe?) I'll have to fiddle with the exbal program and do some head scratchin. Maybe barrel life is the deciding factor.
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Make sure and throw the 6.5 123 grain scenar in your equation.
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