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The House of Saud will not be pleased with their pet Muslophilic Lawn Jockey and Congressional lackeys over this:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...1-bill-in-first-override-presidency.html



Congress on Wednesday overwhelmingly rejected President Obama’s veto of a bipartisan bill letting families of Sept. 11 victims sue the Saudi Arabian government, in the first successful veto override of Obama’s presidency.

Marking a significant defeat for the White House, the House ensured the bill will become law after voting 348-77 to override Wednesday afternoon. This followed a 97-1 vote hours earlier in the Senate.

Despite last-ditch warnings from the Obama administration that the legislation could hurt national security and was “badly misguided,” lawmakers dismissed the concerns.

"This bill is about respecting the voices and rights of American victims," Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, said.

Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., speaking on the Senate floor moments before Wednesday's vote in that chamber, pushed back hard on Saudi government objections to the legislation.

“It’s very simple. If the Saudis were culpable, they should be held accountable. If they had nothing to do with 9/11, they have nothing to fear,” Schumer said.

Lawmakers in both chambers needed to muster a two-thirds majority to override, and did so easily. The lone "no" vote in the Senate was Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev.

With elections just over a month away, many lawmakers were reluctant to oppose a measure backed by 9/11 families who say they are still seeking justice 15 years after the attacks that killed nearly 3,000 people. A group of senators pledged to find ways to improve the measure during a post-election, lame-duck session of Congress.

Despite an expectation that Congress would override, the White House made a last-ditch attempt to fight it. In a letter to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and Reid, Obama warned the bill could cause chaos in U.S. foreign affairs, as other countries would use the measure to justify the creation of ways to target "U.S. policies and activities that they oppose."

"As a result, our nation and its armed forces, State Department, intelligence officials and others may find themselves subject to lawsuits in foreign courts." Obama wrote in a letter delivered Tuesday.

But Cornyn, one of the bill's leading proponents, dismissed Obama's concerns as "unpersuasive." Cornyn, the Senate's No. 2 Republican, and other supporters said the bill is narrowly tailored and applies only to acts of terrorism that occur on U.S. soil.

The Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act, or JASTA, moved to the floor of the Senate in May and passed by voice vote. The bill cleared the House earlier this month, also by voice vote.

Defense Secretary Ash Carter, in a letter Monday to a senior member of Congress, said he's sympathetic to the intent of the measure. But the legislation could lead to the public disclosure of American secrets and even undercut counterterrorism efforts by sowing mistrust among U.S. partners and allies, according to Carter.

With the override, the bill will now become law. During his nearly two full terms in office, Obama had never had a veto overridden by Congress.

The legislation gives victims' families the right to sue in U.S. court for any role that elements of the Saudi government may have played in the 2001 attacks. Fifteen of the 19 Sept. 11 hijackers were Saudi nationals.

Courts would be permitted to waive a claim of foreign sovereign immunity when an act of terrorism occurs inside U.S. borders, according to the terms of the bill. Saudi Arabia has objected vehemently to the legislation.

Obama vetoed the measure last week, telling lawmakers the bill would make the U.S. vulnerable to retaliatory litigation in foreign courts that could put U.S. troops in legal jeopardy.

But the bill's proponents have disputed Obama's rationale as "unconvincing and unsupportable," saying the measure is narrowly tailored and applies only to acts of terrorism that occur on U.S. soil.

Kristen Breitweiser, a 9/11 widow and co-chair of September 11th Advocates, criticized Carter's assessment, saying that the defense secretary had testified before Congress last week that he wasn't an expert on the bill.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.


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Any attorneys here, would this fall under the definition of 'Ex Post Facto' ???

2nd. Suing and winning is not the same as collecting!

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It has to make you wonder any time a lawyer objects to lawsuits.

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He ain't used to taking NO for an answer.....what do ya wanna bet that stupid looking dog of his gets a good kicking tonight.....

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laugh

Oh.

Somebody told him "No"...

It only took 8 years.


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Originally Posted by FieldGrade
He ain't used to taking NO for an answer.....what do ya wanna bet that stupid looking dog of his gets a good kicking tonight.....
Wouldn't that be 'spouse abuse'??

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Originally Posted by Redneck
Originally Posted by FieldGrade
He ain't used to taking NO for an answer.....what do ya wanna bet that stupid looking dog of his gets a good kicking tonight.....
Wouldn't that be 'spouse abuse'??

laugh laugh


Only if he kicked the Wookie.


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Originally Posted by Redneck
Originally Posted by FieldGrade
He ain't used to taking NO for an answer.....what do ya wanna bet that stupid looking dog of his gets a good kicking tonight.....
Wouldn't that be 'spouse abuse'??

laugh laugh


exact thoughts

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I'm not sure lawsuits are the correct response to Saudi Arabia in this instance.


It seems to me leveling every Saudi palace and oil refinery/ burning every poppy field in the country would be a better response


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Originally Posted by gitem_12
I'm not sure lawsuits are the correct response to Saudi Arabia in this instance.


It seems to me leveling every Saudi palace and oil refinery/ burning every poppy field in the country would be a better response


We were too busy invading Iraq to go after those that actually had a hand in the 9/11 attack....

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Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by Redneck
Originally Posted by FieldGrade
He ain't used to taking NO for an answer.....what do ya wanna bet that stupid looking dog of his gets a good kicking tonight.....
Wouldn't that be 'spouse abuse'??

laugh laugh


Only if he kicked the Wookie.

Hmmm...

He'd probably get his azz handed to him pronto... shocked

That one he won't mess with.

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And what happens when Saudi Arabia doesnt pay the bill ?

thats right Donald can lead the ground forces and take the oil fields ....... lol


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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Hey look! A f@$kin retard


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hey gitem didnt Donald recently say that they shoulda taken control of the Iraqi Oil fields and refinaries and kept em ???

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Originally Posted by RGinther
hey gitem didnt Donald recently say that they should taken control of the Iraqi Oil fields and refinaries and kept em ???


If we had, ISIS wouldn't be selling oil to pay for killing us.


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Originally Posted by hillbillybear


With elections just over a month away, many lawmakers were reluctant to oppose a measure backed by 9/11 families who say they are still seeking justice 15 years after the attacks that killed nearly 3,000 people. A group of senators pledged to find ways to improve the measure during a post-election, lame-duck session of Congress.


You can bet your ass the looming election is the ONLY reason the over ride passed....
Let's not forget these are the same "Republicans" who have been handing the Lawn Jockey everything he wants every since we gave them control of both houses six years ago.....

They'll make up for the over ride by allowing him to raise the limit on the national credit card as high as he wants come budget time....which BTW is just a few days away....

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Originally Posted by RGinther
And what happens when Saudi Arabia doesnt pay the bill ?

thats right Donald can lead the ground forces and take the oil fields ....... lol


At least he will do something other then

A Draw a redline in the sand

B Play 300 rounds of Golf

C Give his Partners [bleep]


Now GFY putting your plant AZZ on ignore as should everyone else here that is not a [bleep] idiot Libtard


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actually Isis is selling a [bleep] load of drugs and Americans are killin themselves ......


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well I guess he had a choice between golf and bass fishing...

maybe just maybe GWB will be indicted as a war criminal LOL


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Fuggin hairy reed voted [no]...................this needs to be broadcast throughout his state!

If the house of saud is found to be involved, they need to glow Green for the next 500 years!


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