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Well, congratulations Mohhammad. First thing I thought was if its an accident, negligence or Terrorism.


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/09/2...-station-multiple-injuries-reported.html


Long for the good old days when it was just a drunk conductor...

Something tells me this was not an "accident"

Work place violence?

Could be but I also would not be surprised to find out the conductor was distracted by a cell phone. Have to wait and see what they find out.

I've read a number of reports and still haven't figured out how a train can leave the tracks and hit a building. Is there any better info on what happened?

As soon as the alternative narrative is written, you'll know what happened.

If it was indeed an accident, they'll have to explain how the engineer screwed up and also how the automatic braking system failed.

If it wasn't an accident, they'll claim it was "workplace violence" and call for more gun control.

This, I would imagine the conductor and engineer have done this thing(coming into a station) for quite some time. They would have both been very distracted for this to happen

All the tax money that crooked corrupt POS state takes in and they cannot even install a speed monitor on the train like they promised. I guess writing the welfare checks, setting up sanctuary cities and letting the infrastructure crumble are more important things to the LIBTArds that run that chitthole.

If you want to learn how to run a railroad.....you best go to Europe to find out!!

They still believe that if a train isn't ON TIME....that a P-47 will blow up the engine!!

We shall see
Mechanical failure?
Operator error?
OR?

This, once the investigation concludes. Until then little matters.

In many big city rail stations - particularly in commuter settings - incoming trains don't run past the station. They are shunted onto parallel sidings that line up adjacent to one another and actually end in the station. If someone messes up and does not brake the train, it will run smack into the cross platform in the station. If the train is traveling at a sufficient rate, it can pile up into the station building. Have never seen this, but often looked around and wondered what it would be like. Now, I know.

Why make assumptions with no evidence?

It's not hard when the train is inside the building when it leaves the tracks.

Why not?

You side with them with no evidence to the contrary.

There is no automatic braking system. That stuff is still in the works on most railroads, and it was reported that this line has not implemented it yet. And the correct term, BTW, is "positive train control" or "PTC". The only other such devices I am aware of in use in the US is the deadman device that stops if the engineer leaves his seat or the alerter that must be acknowledged by the engineer at intervals or else it stops the train. Neither of those devices can stop the train automatically just because the train runs out of track.

Now, if the engineer screwed up, that will likely come out as the data recorder is downloaded. The crew's cell phone records will also be examined - you can be sure of that. The most recent version of inward facing cameras (I don't know if this line has them, but the major railroads are installing them) also has a cell phone detector that records any use of phones in the cab - which is grounds alone for permanent dismissal, even without any accident (truck drivers take note).

I read the train stopped for a block and was running 15 mph into the terminal, a stub track. It's not uncommon in this kind of operation to have to wait for a track at the station "throat" (track switches).
You stop, then usually proceed at "restricted speed" or "yard limit." That's "prepared to stop short of all obstructions and stop signals."
So, the engineer duly stopped, then came up to the usual slow speed and then blew his final stop brake application. The headhouse is only about a car length from the end of track. And at that speed, the stopping distance is quite short, so I would be amazed if any conductor or train employee except in the first couple of coaches would notice no brakes in time to pounce on the emergency brake cord.
And putting a brake trigger on the spur? No....the commuters like it better the closer the engineer stops to the post.

Nope - that is not a 15mph collision. I've seen those....this ain't even close, IME.

From the CNN article...



This probably means there was a camera on the nose looking forward (that's the one that kills lawsuits from drivers who run crossing gates or signs and get hit) and an inward facing camera. They don't have the option of shutting them off, like some other cameras that have been in the news lately.