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Yes, he died for them and they still reject Him. They still attack his disciples. Where's the forgiveness on the part of the queers? Why did they not witness Christ and forgive their neighbor? Instead, they went out of their way to CRUSH the bakers over a lousy $30 cake. Oh, yeah, that real just. Just the kind of justice you'd expect from a viper!

Have no idea whose ass you pulled that from but it needs to go back...stat!

So, to be clear, you (and others on here) believe any business should be free to discriminate against anyone they choose, anytime...correct?

Just don't ask them what Jesus said about getting divorced and remarried.

Enjoy Dachau. That's the type of place your ass will end up.

You can talk all the patriotic armed revolution chitt you want. I can tell you right now that any such talk is braggadocio bullschitt.

Russell Means, the AIM leader figured this out after his stunt at Wounded Knee 40 years ago. He summed up it more or less "How do you fight the government with guns when they have airplanes and tanks?"

Yeah, the Native Americans were going to pull a big F.U. on the government. Didn't work out so well, Good thing the slots are paying off.

So go do your Waco or Ruby Ridge thing. You will take your principles to the After Life right quick, partners. There are principles, and then there is obstinate stupidity.

In American, we do it through laws and at the ballot box. Our "successful armed revolution was 250 years ago, and really was our first Civil War. Had logistics not been such a problem, England could have crushed the Revolution had they really wanted to. Oh, and England was short on airpower in those days.

Our American Civil War shows the futility of armed revolution. The South was well organized, united, and was crushed. Between the hundreds of thousands war dead, the millions of lives destroyed, the combination of war and Reconstruction so damaged the South that it has taken 150 years for it to fully recover. 150 years for the South to again be prosperous and vibrant. 150 years is a long, long, time chief. Families suffered, and the fabric of the country was forever altered.

Yes if Hillary gets in and Executive orders our guns away, you can try that "they fell out of my fishing boat in the middle of Lake Superior" defense. You'll also end up in Nuevo Dachau for perjury, obstruction of justice, and 4o other gun laws she'll introduce. Go ahead, talk big. BTW, who's providing for your family while you're locked up?

Bake the damned cake. Obey the law, otherwise you are no different that BLM. If you want change, make it the first Tuesday in November.

Instances of sin aren't the issue with activist homosexuals. We are all guilty of instances of sin. It's a lifestyle that celebrates sin that's the problem with these folks.

Not speaking for efw, but for me, yes. I have no desire to make someone else do something for me against his desire. And I don't care for people who would use the force of government to do so.

The bakery based their decision on the gender of the customers, and nothing else. They weren't required to "condone or encourage" anything. All they had to do was bake a cake, just like all the other cakes they bake.

The part that says all are treated equally under the laws.

You don't seem to show the behavior you demand of others.
That's why many have a low opinion of "christians"

Many talk the talk, but fail to walk the walk.
You seem to be mostly talk

So you are saying that a man has no right to run his business as he sees fit and refuse service to anyone he pleases to? So the government should have the right and power to tell you how to run your own place of business?

No. They had to bake a cake for a lesbian couple. That cake symbolized what their religion regarded as sin.

Unless you're in favour of unlimited government, why would you care how they choose to live their religion?

If you operate certain types of businesses, there are certain regulations that must be followed.

They knew that going in.

You cannot pick and choose customers without a valid reason that applies to everyone.

This isn't rocket science.

Refusing service to a person because it violates your religious doctrine, thereby your freedom of religion IS valid. The validity of gays being a protected class, on the same plane as race and gender, is based on the scientific evidence that homosexuality is a proven genetic trait. The only problem is that there isn't any. It's a political lever. That's it. That's not rocket science either. It's either a choice, or it isnt. There is no proof that it is anything BUT a choice. That is not popular with the cool people, but that is the truth.

No, it's just a cake.
They can't insert their myths into their business dealings.
They are still free to practice their religion after business hours

No, it's just a cake.
They can't insert their myths into their business dealings.
They are still free to practice their religion after business hours
[/quote]Then Muslim deli's/restaurants must serve bacon. You are saying that their freedom to practice their religion is limited to a private setting. That is not true. I'm kinda curious how you feel you can just proclaim something to be true, and it must be so. A wedding cake is more than just any cake. It has a specific purpose. That purpose is to celebrate a wedding. It is a symbol of that celebration. According to the religious doctrine of the bakers, the wedding of a gay couple is NOT a valid wedding. They chose to refuse to bake a symbol that celebrates that union. Religion is not a thing that you turn on and off. Though you consider it nothing more than a myth, greater minds than yours have disagreed with your opinion.

Only applies if you favor unlimited government.

I'm all for private business to sell to whomever they like, but that is not the current law.

How folks can't understand that these folks shot themselves in the foot, and it is in no way the same, or even similar to " muslim delis/ restaurants must serve bacon" is beyond me.

It must be willful?

Those folks would of been waaay ahead baking the cake and refusing payment.

That doesn't change their forced participation.


Declaring private business "places of public accommodation" was a wrongful government taking and a direct affront to private property as intended in our founding documents.

It's a foretaste of the evil to come.