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When I was in the USArmy I knew several guys who originally joined as infantry, arty, scouts, etc. and after they made E5 they reenlisted into another MOS. Some told me they made rank quicker in combat arms but got tired of being in the field all the time. I met very few who did 20 years in combat arms, I imagine most guys got tired of it after awhile. Any input?
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I was Infantry all the way, Airborne Infantry as a matter of fact. I saw many guys E-5 and above forced into Infantry as their career fields either had celings or not much chance (room) for advancement.
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When I got out in the early 90s I remember that a lot of MOS were over strength and some were given the option to go into another field, but most simply got out of the military.
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Just my observations. Promotions come much faster in the in Infantry. The only exception would be for cooks. Two fields that not everyone wants to do. Promotions in the MP Corp and enlisted Aviation are slow. Field duty MP's were in the field as much as the Infantry and got half the promotions. Of Course cooks were also out there as well.
Spending 20 years doing field exercises has to be tough. Congrats sbrmike for doing 20.
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Nothing personal to add to this but I can add my Dad's career. He served 24 years in the US Army. After a short stint with the 101st Airborne, the rest of his time was spent in the 3rd and 5th Special Forces Group. He told me he retired only because he was tired of all the running and P.T. It took to maintain a proper soldier.
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When I was in the USArmy I knew several guys who originally joined as infantry, arty, scouts, etc. and after they made E5 they reenlisted into another MOS. Some told me they made rank quicker in combat arms but got tired of being in the field all the time. I met very few who did 20 years in combat arms, I imagine most guys got tired of it after awhile. Any input? Infantry is damned hard on your body. Trashed knees and trashed backs being pretty much a sure thing. Guys that did 20 years in the Infantry were physically a wreck by their late 30s/early 40s.
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I did almost 21 years in Combat Arms. I would say the guys that stay in a Combat Arms job are just a little different then normal folks. I can't say I remember a lot of people switching to a support MOS when I was a 19D (8 years), most just got out.
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I did 25+ years as a Fire Support Man. That's an artillery MOS, basically an enlisted forward observer. Spend a lot of time living with the grunts, since that's who we supported.
When I called it quits I had surgery on a blown L4/L5, and bulged discs above and below that one. Reconstructed broken ankle, tinnitus, and a bad shoulder. Pretty much normal wear and tear. But promotions were generally good, made MGySgt (E9) in 21 years.
Along the way I did a couple gigs on Embassy Duty, and some instructor duty. About 4.5 years cumulative in hostile territory in El Salvador, Croatia, Egypt, Persian Gulf and Iraq.
All in all, a great experience.
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From what I've seen, once they are planning on retiring there are two goals. First, is to get an MOS they can sell better, (ie, radiology technician, etc) and the other thing is to get a medical retirement. It can add substantially to the retirement.
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I don't know how some guys do it if they don't make E8. Being in a line platoon on field problems tripping over logs in the dark with a heavy ruck plus Friday ruck marches and brutal puke your gut runs adds up.
I had an E6 who was a good guy but slowing down. I talked to BN and got him transferred to the S4 shop where he was just peachy. Worked hard but didn't have a ruck killing his knees. I dropped by often for favors when I needed extras.:-)
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When I was in the USArmy I knew several guys who originally joined as infantry, arty, scouts, etc. and after they made E5 they reenlisted into another MOS. Some told me they made rank quicker in combat arms but got tired of being in the field all the time. I met very few who did 20 years in combat arms, I imagine most guys got tired of it after awhile. Any input? Infantry is damned hard on your body. Trashed knees and trashed backs being pretty much a sure thing. Guys that did 20 years in the Infantry were physically a wreck by their late 30s/early 40s. I started at 29 years old and made seven years before the body wear and tear affected me. I managed to hang awhile but I got out during the RIFs for the "Peace Dividend". Hadn't seen the wife in two years because of BRAC and it was too late when I got home(less). I miss the field but, of course, not being frozen, exhausted, panting from heat exhaustion, or being 2000-3000-whatever miles from home. If I had one left. In a good unit, with good Leaders, you don't get tired of "it" as you would in hellish units. But you have to be at the top of your physical game to contribute, or else you are a liability to other good Soldiers.
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20 years in the Marine Corps has done a number on me. That is for sure. Though, I could not imagine a better way to spend those years. To me, it was worth every minute.
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I was thinking about a soldier I knew my first year in and if I remember correctly he switched over from pathfinder to tech supply and couldnt accept the laxed life of being in a maintenance unit. He requested to go back to his old MOS and it didnt happen, he was discharged in less than a year.
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