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The strength of the M700 trigger was also it's downfall--it is eminently adjustable--whereas most other factory production triggers are barely adjustable.

Casey

Extremesolo,

And I am remiss in saying I'm glad you and your son were not hurt.

At this juncture the best advice is to take the rifle to your gunsmith and have it cleaned and inspected.

I'm betting a cleaning will address the problem.

Casey

Never trust it and you won't have a dangerous problem.

But by design, there will always be the possibility that the trigger disconnector does not reset properly and it has another AD. This can happen (rarely) even if the trigger is properly adjusted if there is some piece of sand/dirt that gets in between the disconnector.

If you plan to keep the rifle and want a "safe" trigger, then you will have to swap it out for a replacement brand or an XMark version.

I'd never trust a Walker trigger. I've picked up brand new rifles off the shelf and had them go off when the safety is pushed off.

Change it to a Timney.

I need one on those sticky tongue out icon thingies.......

Seriously Bob, nothing wrong with the orignal M72x/700 triggers.

Proportionally, Remmy triggers have no more or less failure rate than others.

The M700 is the most popular bolt sporter ever, naturally you will hear more about it.

Not you Bob, but I am continually surprised by how many Pro-2A folks bought into CNBC's hit piece that was designed to hurt Remington's parent company.

Clean the trigger. If necessary, have the gunsmith dismantle the trigger assembly and check for grit under the connector, although that is rarely necessary.

Casey

Wouldn't own another Remington on a dare. Only one I own is a 22-250 bull barrel that we use for ground hogs in PA and we NEVER use the safety, besides, the POS doesn't even lock the bolt...

Walkers floating connector is an AD just waiting to happen. Flawed design from the git go.

I have a supply of pre-1983 safety levers that lock the bolt--all my serious hunting rifles are equipped with one. Indeed, my two serious elk getters have the first few years of M700 production verily "dangerous" flat knob safety levers.

Nothing wrong with remmy triggers. Trying to adjust a Vanguard trigger is well, not really an adjustment..........


Casey

Nope just pointing out that people have opinions and [bleep]. Some are so ignorant of the facts and ignorant about the world around them that there opinions smell as bad as their butts.

People that modify tested and engineered factory rifles and then complain how bad the company was when they were at fault but refuse to admit their stupidity fall into this category.

Walker made one mistake. He never dreamed that people would change the factory tuned trigger, these people who have no idea of what they are doing nor the consequences of their stupidity deserve what they get.

What is a crime is someone screwing up a well designed and thoroughly tested piece of equipment and then selling it to an innocent victim.

I have a Remington that was subject to the recall...contacted Remington, it was weeks before the shipping box arrived. I figured if it took them that long to get a box to me I wasn't going to dismount the scope from a really good shooting outfit and send the rifle off to them for who the hell knows how long....and if they couldn't get it right the first time....I bought a Timney, put it in, problem solved.

....this close enuff, or maybe



they're available on 'full screen reply'.

Jerry

I wouldn't toss the trigger or rifle until I did what the other guys said.I also would check to see if the trigger is rubbing on one side of the trigger guard or the other. (The slot where the trigger comes through the trigger guard.) I have seen that happen on more than a dozen rifles in my time. Also, if the adjustment screw has been turned out and not re-epoxied it can creep further out. Also, on a lot of 700's once that trigger adjustment screw has been turned out, you will need to relieve the wood in front of the screw so it doesn't bear against the web/wood. On plastic stocks there is a bigger or no danger of that. Of course, if you decide to replace it with a Timney, you will probably have to make sure the bolt release lever and/or the trigger itself isn't rubbing causing the trigger not to return. I recently replaced 4 X Mark triggers with Timney's, and had to do some relieving of the trigger guard material before they were safe to use. After that, I think the Timney trigger is good to go. That's all I use on my Mausers!
I have adjusted hundreds of Remington 700 triggers and I have never had a failure yet!! I am sure I would have heard about it if one had failed.

Ken

I have a Timney on a 98 and love it.

I haven't counted but I've adjusted 15-20 Rem triggers that lock the bolt when engaged.
I "never" touched the sear engagement. SO FAR I've had NO problems with them.

I have a 700 BDL 7 RM and the trigger has been VERY light for many years-----no trouble whatsoever.

It seems to me that at least some of the trigger 'failures' are the results of dirt, stock warping, and or MIS adjusting. IMO

As many 700s as I've had, seems strange to me none have mal functioned.

Jerry

It is improperly adjusted and the OP knew it...

It also brings up the simple point that one should never have a hot chamber until the last minute in getting ready to shoot...

Missing an opportunity at ANY critter is not worth the risk. Loading and unloading at the vehicle are the most dangerous times of the day...

Hoo Boy! Now you done it! And just as this thread was going to bed too.

(Not that you're wrong; just the way I do it as well.... what's a safety? )

Casey I have never seen the CNBC program. Know nothing about it.

Had an older Remington get out of adjustment here recently. It was not tuned by me, and somebody else commented on how light the trigger was when I was checking zero. I agreed that it did seem rather light, lighter than I remembered. Upon bringing it home, my digital gauge showed about 1.5lbs. Sure enough, when I racked the bolt hard, the pin would sometimes fall. Yikes. Upon disassembly, I found that no sealant had been put on the screws after adjustment. It had taken about 15 years for the trigger to gradually get unsafe. I added a bit of sear engagement and pull weight and resealed the screws. It's now at 2.2lbs.

For the record, I never "trust" a bolt-gun safety. I expect the gun not to slamfire or fire when the safety is disengaged, but I treat the bolt handle as the main safety, especially when I'm hunting with others or I'm on the move.

If y'all don't want those Remingtons, just send them to me.

Yep, complete nonsense.