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Is it better to have a hot tub gun or an ice pick? Water jug test of NAA Pug .22 WMR firing Speer 40 grain Gold Dot Short Barrel:



The ice pick would have to be really, really long to offer an advantage.

File photo of the gun because I couldn’t see the display while filming:

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That's about the upper limit on what I would consider a pants pocket gun for everyday carry. Even the diminutive Ruger LCP is too big for comfortable pants pocket carry, IMO. I carried a NAA Mini Revolver (.22 Long Rifle) in my front pants pocket for many years.

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The Glock 43 is my upper limit in a pants pocket gun. I can’t imagine carrying a NAA mini as an only gun. But, the setup above, including 5 in the gun, the holster and the ammo wallet with 30 spare rounds (which now includes some ratshot), weighs 15.1 ounces. I keep it in the barebones emergency kit, figuring that it doesn’t weigh it down and that some unarmed person (e.g. a friend/spouse) may be delighted to have it in a real jam. I now know that it will cause leakage out of two holes on a frontal shot, and that is without taking into account the assist from the blast and flame on a true contact shot.

Oh, I did swap out the Pug oversized grips shown above for the regular 2 piece rubber grips that are used on WMR models.

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Loud little bastards.

Nice test, Cheyenne. Thanks for that.


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I carry a reg 1 1/8" magnum naa everyday

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I realized that the video did not show the jug to jug performance of the round. I took a picture of the entrance holes of each jug, starting with jug 1 on the right and ending with jug 4 on the left. The round veered to the right only slightly from jug 1 to jug 4. It dropped approximately 2-1/4" from the entrance of jug 1 to the entrance of jug 4. It dropped about an inch between the entrance of jug 4 and the exit of jug 4. I was pretty surprised to get about 25" of straight line penetration out of this pipsqueak.

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The people on Glock Talk were hating on NAA minis today, some asserting that they would rather have a knife or a screwdriver (not that they are mutually exclusive carry items). I decided to do a contact shot test and figured I may as well post it here for whatever it’s worth.



I recovered 2 bullets in jug 3. Picture 1 is the front of jug 1 that took the first round. You can see the burn marks on the jug. Picture 2 shows the two bullets recovered from jug 3. They had to be the first two rounds fired because you can see evidence in the video of the other three exiting jugs.

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As I figured, the .22 WMR blast brings something to table at contact distance, and there's no chance of a slide failing to cycle.


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nice test, thank you for sharing.


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I'd have to pick a 22LR over a magnum in a 1" barrel, but that's me.

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FYI, with the .22 WMR 40 grain Gold Dots in the Pug, I got a 10 shot average of 932 fps, ES 107, SD 33, with the average lowered (and ES increased) by one round at 873 fps that couldn’t be verified by the proof channel.

Using the .22 LR cylinder in a “standard” .22 WMR/.22 LR convertible Mini with the 1-1/8 inch barrel, I got the following averages for 7 shots (???):
CCI Velocitor (40 gr.), 773 fps, ES 51, SD 19
CCI Stinger (32 gr.), 873 fps, ES 128, SD 43
Remigton “Golden Bullet” JHP, 560 fps, ES 74, SD 26-1 misfire not included in results that fired on restrike

So, for a cup holder gun, I’d still take the magnum. But, I wouldn’t mind having a .22 LR cylinder for the Pug. It is a special order thing. Another alternative would be the 2” WMR/LR Black Widow with decent sights, but I would change the grips to the smaller rubber grips found on the standard magnums or the Pug one piece rubber grip.


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Originally Posted by Steelhead
I'd have to pick a 22LR over a magnum in a 1" barrel, but that's me.

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.22 LR ammo review for Mini. I thought it was interesting.



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