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How come so many people don't use 7mags anymore??
They are now made in lighter guns and not such a beast to carry. Nothing new is really lights out better? Tremendous bullet and powder choices. Lots of brass available.
Are people just looking for something different??
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Geeze......
Who/why how does this chit come to people's mind enough to want to discuss it to death???
A lot of people don't need a big 7 to shoot a deer at 113 yards. I'm a big fan of the chambering and use a 280AI which is big enough for lil ol me.
The same question could be asked about 25 different chamberings and I still wonder why?
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I think when something's boringly good, people just have to try something else. 7RM is so "last century".
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Headspace on belt. Brass stretches, not many reloads, and it is expensive, long actions, bullet selection has improved in other calibers also. I have a selection of dies and calibers, if I won a 7mag, it would be sold.
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I just have no use for it. Lots of them around the woods when I was a kid as guys got them because they'd "go west someday" but still - my 7-08 does everything I need in a trimmer package with less BS.
Excellent brass Not bad on powder consumption Accurate in my Montana
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I hadn't noticed that it was any less popular......(?)
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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It's still very popular in my house, and with who I hunt with.
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Headspace on belt. Brass stretches, not many reloads, and it is expensive, long actions, bullet selection has improved in other calibers also. I have a selection of dies and calibers, if I won a 7mag, it would be sold. On the reloading side, the headspacing/stretching becomes moot if you treat it as a beltless cartridge and headspace off the shoulder by means of FL die sizing adjustments or my favorite by using the Lee collet neck sizer. Some of my batches of 7RM brass have an excess of a dozen reloads with 160 gr loads in the 3000 fps regime.
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Headspace on belt. Brass stretches, not many reloads, and it is expensive, long actions, bullet selection has improved in other calibers also. I have a selection of dies and calibers, if I won a 7mag, it would be sold. On the reloading side, the headspacing/stretching becomes moot if you treat it as a beltless cartridge and headspace off the shoulder by means of FL die sizing adjustments or my favorite by using the Lee collet neck sizer. Some of my batches of 7RM brass have an excess of a dozen reloads with 160 gr loads in the 3000 fps regime. Nearly moot. It can take a bit of a stretch on the first firing. It seems like the 300 Win. magnum is often really bad in this way.
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or my favorite by using the Lee collet neck sizer. Some of my batches of 7RM brass have an excess of a dozen reloads with 160 gr loads in the 3000 fps regime. Amen from the back row!
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My son is going to get my Sako rem mag , he is a millenial and loves everything about that 7mag.
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Headspace on belt. Brass stretches, not many reloads, and it is expensive, long actions, bullet selection has improved in other calibers also. I have a selection of dies and calibers, if I won a 7mag, it would be sold. On the reloading side, the headspacing/stretching becomes moot if you treat it as a beltless cartridge and headspace off the shoulder by means of FL die sizing adjustments or my favorite by using the Lee collet neck sizer. Some of my batches of 7RM brass have an excess of a dozen reloads with 160 gr loads in the 3000 fps regime. Nearly moot. It can take a bit of a stretch on the first firing. It seems like the 300 Win. magnum is often really bad in this way. Good point mathman and very true.
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It is very popular here.. I just used one to take my antelope this fall.. I have shot mag.s for almost 50 years never had any problem with brass..
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I think the big magnums in general are waning in popularity. The advent of cost effective range finders and quality scopes with ballistic type reticles and/or cost-effective turrets have, "sort of" eliminated the need for a much flatter trajectory. It's speculation; but, I think it applies to many.
Additionally, all of the perceived or actual benefits of the 7 mag come at a cost for little gain over cartridges immediately before it on the cartridge line-up.
I, however, will never be without one.
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I had an LGS tell me while the .300 Win has increased in popularity, the 7 Rem has waned. I've seen a lot of good deals on gunbroker with 7 Rem Mags lately but I don't want them either.
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Headspace on belt. Brass stretches, not many reloads, and it is expensive, long actions, bullet selection has improved in other calibers also. I have a selection of dies and calibers, if I won a 7mag, it would be sold. My last one was sent to PacNor for a 375AI rebarreling.
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Mine is 8.5 twisted Rock and shoots 180 scenars and 195 EOL very well. Next will be an 8 twisted Bartlein 2B. If it isn't a 7mm Remington, its a 6.5 of some sort for our group.
I have no use or need for anything bigger though I have a few.
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How come so many people don't use 7mags anymore??
They are now made in lighter guns and not such a beast to carry. Nothing new is really lights out better? Tremendous bullet and powder choices. Lots of brass available.
Are people just looking for something different?? Because the 270 Win does almost everything a 7mag will.
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243 does almost everything a 270 does.
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Because the 270 Win does almost everything a 7mag will. A fat ugly chick can do almost everything Scarlet Johansson can... A Pabst can do almost everything a Fat Tire can.... A Ranger can do almost everything an F350 can.... You see where I'm headed here....
You better pray to the God of Skinny Punks that this wind doesn't pick up......
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