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.300 Wby,read it here on the 'fire that it's the best ever cartridge for elk. Yeah, we already answered that one. This is for second place Gotcha....then I vote for the .338 RUM and 250 gr Nosler Partition's.
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Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell Proper bullet placement + sufficient penetration = quick, clean kill. Finn Aagard
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bellydeep,
Since this is "Ask The Gunwriters," I'd like to quote the title of a book by an older gun writer:
NO SECOND PLACE WINNER
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I thought everyone got a gold star?
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Dang, you're right. Or at least a participation certificate.
“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck
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Hard choice to make for me as I like both cartridges, so it would come down to the rifle at hand. If Remmy 700, then 7 mag. Kimber Montana...then 300 WSM.
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bellydeep,
Since this is "Ask The Gunwriters," I'd like to quote the title of a book by an older gun writer:
NO SECOND PLACE WINNER Yes there it: First place loser...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Campfire Ranger
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Never shot an elk with the WSM.. But dozens with other .300's.. Some with the big 7's.. I am a .30 caliber guy, but the 7's are good also, with a bit less recoil..
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I am a .30 caliber guy, but the 7's are good also, with a bit less recoil.. I must have lived in Wyo. previously.... Dad, is that you ? Jerry
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Dang, you're right. Or at least a participation certificate. I think the participation certificate Bill Jordan was referring to was a death certificate
I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle. I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.
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While I cannot appreciate the 7mm Rem Mag, I do have several 7 Wby's that I hold in very high esteem.
By the way, in case you missed it, Jeremiah was a bullfrog.
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2mg - It's amazing what we can learn here on the 'fire'. It's so much better than reading books or magazines. I'm sorry M D, I couldn't resist. Jerry
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The elk won't know the difference; use whichever you have, if you have one. Or buy the rifle you like best in whichever caliber it is. Regardless of popular belief, elk can still be killed with non-belted cartridges pretty regularly too.............just sayin'. Of course, YMMV MM
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Yeah I hear ya M M - The 7-08, 280 Rem, 284 Win, 7 RM, 7 Wby and other .284 variants are ALL 7 mm calibers. OOPS I forgot the 7X57 Mouser. Jerry
Last edited by jwall; 11/18/16.
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Maybe I'm more old school than I thought but definately the 7MM Rem Mag
JOC was right. The 270 Winchester on a Model 70 is a great combination as is the 30/06 and 375 H&H
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7mm Rem Mag would be my choice of those two.
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Not a choice in the question but think a .308 is enough gun.
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I'm not a fan of WSM cartridges, but between the two, that is the one I would choose. The 7mm Mag has a reputation for being a little unpredictable in load development, as does the 243 and the 338 Lapua. Other than that, the critter on the receiving end would never know the difference. Reputation aside, I've owned three 7RMs and they were all a peach to load for. I'm more of a .30 kind of guy, but I just don't like the WSMs. And I don't even have any rational reasons other than the look of the cartridge. To give the WSM cartridge it's due, I gotta admit that a friend bought one last spring that has turned out to be a real shooter. IIRC he started load development and found a good combo on his first go-round. He took that to colorado for mule deer and scored, so he's happy.
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I no longer have a rifle chambered for either cartridge. But, as Montana Man said, find a rifle that you like chambered in either one and buy it. The elk won't know the difference.
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...I just don't like the WSMs. And I don't even have any rational reasons other than the look of the cartridge. That's what I like most about it.
By the way, in case you missed it, Jeremiah was a bullfrog.
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