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I have an old Remington model 8 in .30 Rem. Just wondering if, due to it having a magazine I could load bullets like the Partition? If so what information would I use? As of now I'm shooting 170 grain round nose Hornady bullets. I realize I asked MD but I'll gladly take any feedback. Thanks in advance

The overall cartridge length that will fit in the magazine and function correctly will determine the bullets that you can use.

But where do I get load information?

If 30 Rem data isn't readily available, I believe the cartridge is similar enough to the 30-30 to use data from it.

Since the 30-30 is now being used in pistols, I believe partition data may be more readily available.

RWE is spot on. You can use 30-30 data. Some of the older manuals will have data for the 30 Remington and you can always go to Ken Water's, "Pet Loads". It should be in every reloader's library.

Carneyman,

I have a bunch of older manuals, including the first I ever purchased, the 1962 Lyman manual, which combines the .30-30 Winchester and .30 Remington, listing exactly the saem data for both. Ken Waters did a "Pet Loads" column for HANDLOADER in 1970, and the loads he published were also all similar to loads he lists for the .30-30 with the same bullet weights. Since the .30-30 has always been loaded to what are today considered very mild pressures for rifle cartridges, I'm sure modern data for the .30-30 will work.

I use 30-30 data in my 30 Remington. IMR3031 is one of the better powders. Btw you can turn the rims off 30-30 brass, resize and you'll have good serviceable brass.

You could certainly use the round nose Partition intended for the 30-30. The spitzer may be too long.

My advise to anyone who wants to shoot/load for the 25/30/32 Remington rimless line is to buy brass whenever you get a chance and pick up your fired brass whenever possible, as it is uncommon, expensive, and only getting more so every day.

May want to add an extractor groove as well.

i was going to say the same thing. That was a project under way until some kind folks here sent some 30remington brass my way, and another poster emailed me about a company selling some loaded stuff.

Well, just damn!

My little brother, little sister, and I all learned to shoot with a model 14 back in the early '60S. The guy my Mom is presently married to has it now.

If I thought there was any way he would turn loose of the rifle, I would be ordering a couple bags of that brass.

I sure didn't know that anyone was making 25, 30, or 32 Rem brass. That is great news for people who have rifles chambered for those cartridges, since Rem/Win haven't sold loaded ammo or component brass for any of those three cartridges for years.

Thank you everyone! I guess I should have been more specific. I use 30-30 info now but was wondering if I could load bullets with a pointed tips. If it's possible what information should I use? I'm shooting 170 grain round nose Hornay right now. Thanks again for all of the answers.

Yes - you're right. About 60% of my cases are formally 30-30 cases.

My 30 Rem is a pump 141.

It has a tube feed that i understood to be designed for pointed bullets. However, I've read that it is not safe. The 30-30 bullets are designed to expand at 30's velocities. Therefore I only use round or flat point bullets, designed for the 30-30. The rifle isn't a 350 yard rifle at any rate. So I don't feel the round nose bullets will hamper the capability of the 30 Remington .

You could load pointed bullets for your Remington 8 in 30 Rem. That said, I don't know that there would be any real advantage in doing so, but it can be safely done. The only rifle with a tubular magazine chambered for the 30 Rem where pointed bullets might be a safety concern was the nearly impossible to find Stevens 425.

That, and the Standard Rifle.

I'll second the bit about using regular old .30-30 bullets. Supposing you loaded a 180 grain XYZ spitzer for its superior BC. All well and good, and you can get away with it in the Model 8's magazine. But, what about terminal performance at sedate .30-30 velocities way on out there where the BC superiority of spitzers versus flat/round noses takes over? Do what you wish, but were it me I would just stick with the excellent .30-30 bullets and be done with it.

Carneyman,

The best pointed bullet for your situation,IMO, would be the Hornady 160 gr Flex-Tip bullet. It is short enough to stay within a reasonable OAL, and it is intended to expand at 30-30 velocities.

That being said, there is little to be gained using anything other than the round-nosed bullets the cartridge and guns were designed for.

I use the Flex-Tip bullet some in my Rem M-14, but as a two-shooter, with only one round in the tubular magazine. They jam in the magazine if I load more than one.

As for the load, the powder doesn't care what shape the nose is, and we are talking rather mild pressures in this cartridge, anyway. Hornady does show 30-30 loads for the 160 gr Flex-Tip bullets. Good luck.