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Thanks. Exactly what I needed to know re: holding to ear. Going to order now and stick a stainless Richte band on it. Been looking at that watch for 2 months now.


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I think you'll like it. The lug width is 22mm BTW.


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It tends to be a personal thing. I bought my first "nice" watch 15 years ago. An omega seamaster. I paid $1000 for it and wear it to this day. I have had a handful (8 or more) other watches during that time. I now have the original omega, a breitling watch, and a luminox (quartz) "beater." Even though I work in the computer industry, I dont want a smart watch. I have more than enough "tech" in my day to day life without wearing it on the wrist. I guess I like the artisan ship \ craftsmanship of the automatic watches. They do require some maintenance, but I like them enough to continue to do so.

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Years ago I used a manual wind Omega Seamaster. Liked that watch a great deal. Then went with a variety of Seiko quartz watches. About ten years ago I bought a RGM 151 Pilot and that is all I wear now. Automatic, sapphire crystal, no date, 20 mm strap. Very accurate. They are made with parts sourced all over in Lancaster Pa.

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Originally Posted by 222Rem
I think you'll like it. The lug width is 22mm BTW.


Yup yup. Got the 22mm with the curved ends Richte OTW.


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Those things illuminated? Pretty dark 300 meters down...... smile


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Originally Posted by JJHACK
I own a few watches and probably have more miles in my G shock, luminox, and traser then the others. All these are quartz.

However there is something about the automatics that just impress the heck out of me. 300 meters water proof, the intricate artistry of the mechanical function 80 hours of standby without winding, plus or minus 5 seconds a week accurate.

It's astonishing to me that that gear train can be so precise and so tiny. Guess that saying about two kinds of people that fix watches. Watchmakers and fools.

The bullet proof endless precision of a good quartz like the traser is near perfect. But just not the same as the function of the brilliant artwork of a mechanical or automatic.
Think about it this way: Those who appreciate a Glock Model 19 more than a, blued steel, Pre-1982, S&W Model 19, will likely go for the quartz. Those who are just the opposite will likely shun the quartz and go with a Swiss mechanical automatic.

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I have automatics, Omegas, one Ernst Benz, and a nice Bell & Ross. They are excellent watches, and keep decent time. Every 5 or 6 years, they need to be cleaned and adjusted.
Most of my watches are quartz, and they keep better time, cost less, and don't require all the constant adjusting.
Shrug..........both types are valued, used and enjoyed. They are just different ways to accomplish the same thing.


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Found a deal on an Citizen Ecodrive this past spring and been very happy with it. On my wrist through most construction season and still in good shape. Had been looking at them for a long time as I liked the idea of them and the good reviews. When I found one on close out for $70 somewhere this past spring I jumped on it. Glad I did, probably what i will stay with.


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I have a Tag automatic that is my daily wearer. I've beat the hell out of it and it keeps on ticking.


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It goes both ways. Automatics can theoretically run forever. Quartz needs batteries. That said, quartz watches are more trouble free.

If you are a watch guy (and I am), get an automatic. If you just want the most accurate and trouble free watch, get a quartz.

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Originally Posted by 222Rem
I think you'll like it. The lug width is 22mm BTW.


Welp I just got my Rolex Submariner Clone from Casio and it looks great. Off to have the new stainless steel $10 band installed. The new band and installation are half the cost of this watch and no, can't hear the thing ticking!

Think this model could make for awesome Christmas presents at $38/pop currently on Amazon.



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One issue with a great high end automatic is the 5-7 year service interval.

That's about 500 bucks to clean and properly align and re-lube the movement.

That will get you about 2-3 years of warranty and run another 5-7 years until you have to do it again!


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Never could pull the trigger on a Rolex. I figured it would look out of place. I wear shorts and boat shoes most of the time. Not counting I'm tight. Bought a Tag been completely happy. Hasbeen


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Originally Posted by bigfish9684
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I think you'll like it. The lug width is 22mm BTW.


Welp I just got my Rolex Submariner Clone from Casio and it looks great. Off to have the new stainless steel $10 band installed. The new band and installation are half the cost of this watch and no, can't hear the thing ticking!

Think this model could make for awesome Christmas presents at $38/pop currently on Amazon.


Glad you like it too. I'm simply amazed at the quality and value.

I bought my own watch band tools, and they quickly paid for themselves.

If you get tired of that stainless bracelet grabbing your arm hairs, give a Nato strap at try. Depending on the color, it quickly transforms the watch into a whole new league, while being very comfortable. The "Bond" stripe is a looker with this watch.


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If you want to toss all BS aside a quartz beats a auto in ALL aspects that matter. I ware a 30 year old Seiko that divemaster because it's cool (I think), only looses about a minute per week.

Dad's Submariner is a 'little' better but the once per decade calibrations do become necessary...and not cheap.

If practical is what your after quartz is certainly the path. If class with 'reliable' time keeping is more your MO, mechanical timepieces certainly have a charm. If I were in charge of outfitting an army with good timekeepers it would be with quartz over autowinders...everytime.


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Originally Posted by 222Rem
Glad you like it too. I'm simply amazed at the quality and value.

I bought my own watch band tools, and they quickly paid for themselves.

If you get tired of that stainless bracelet grabbing your arm hairs, give a Nato strap at try. Depending on the color, it quickly transforms the watch into a whole new league, while being very comfortable. The "Bond" stripe is a looker with this watch.


Yeah I didn't have the 'fork' for the pins but that's on order now. Wasted $10 to have the Richte bracelet installed because my little screwdriver could not get the job done- jeweler had to bend the pins to install the Richte. Took the stainless bracelet off today as soon as I picked it up at the jeweler and put the rubber strap back on.

I have two Citizens with stainless steel bracelets and they don't grab my arm hair and no sharp edges. The Richte bracelet did grab hair and the edges were far too sharp. Back to Amazon it goes. And yeah, the black/gray NATO strap is also on order. The watch is beautiful and I may order a couple more as gifts and maybe one more for myself and have 2 with different bands. I'm on a watch kick right now- cheaper than guns. Can't beat this little Casio. Wish they made it in blue.

There's a Citizen Endeavor at Costco right now for $150 on closeout that is VERY tempting. Trying to wait until payday and hoping they sell out before then.


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I have been wearing a Citizens with Eco Drive for 10 years Now...still looks new and I wear it all day every day.....


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No,not the same,but with complication comes,complications.

My favorites right now are the Japanese made Citizens with Eco drive and Sapphire Crystal, waterproof for 200m, with screw down crown. Elegant yet practically indestructible,and maintenance free.


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I agree that a Quartz watch and especially the Citizen Eco Drive or the equal Seiko Solar are likely the last watch a fella may ever buy and never even need to change a battery!

My Casio G shock purchased in about 1980-85 needed a new battery but the case actually began breaking apart from wear and tear. I was working all over the world at this time in my life. On this trip I was in Singapore. During my work there for about 6 months I was scuba diving 2-3 days a week( recreation not part of my work) My G shock never leaked but was near impossible to see under water and the stop watch function for dive time was not usable as you cannot push the buttons under water without it leaking.

Being quite young and single, and on expenses traveling for my job 7-8 months a year I really had no bills. When I was struggling with my cheap as dirt casio, I went down Orchard Road which has every type of shop known to man. I happened upon a watch shop and began the romantic involvement with the Omega Seamaster chronograph. It was made in the "new" to watch making Titanium. Crazy expensive, but something pulled me in. I found myself walking past that shop and looking through the glass at the watches once a week or more. especially that Titanium marvel with the blue dial, I was acting more like a cobra seeing an Indian flute player, then a 26 year old engineer.

Being there all alone for work, I spent a lot of time wandering the city and shops. I knew my personality was strong enough to look through the window, and walk away. I also knew if I went in there and tried it on and held it in my hands it was going back to America with me!

Ha Ha..... it eventually wore me down over the coming weeks which led me to the decision that I'm single, making a great income, and have no debt. We have all been in this situation where we can somehow manage to justify things and talk ourselves into stuff. So I bought that watch to use for the remainder of the time diving and working in Singapore, Kuala Lumpur, and Bangkok. Arriving home the US customs checked my various company test equipment, oscilloscope etc. Then sent me on my way.

Only later did I realize I was wearing this watch through customs and completely forgot to mention it. Oh well, I wore a watch to Singapore,.... and a watch home from Hong Kong, .....one for one guess that math works good too.

It's now what 3 decades old? and still works fine. However it's dull and worn looking. Titanium begins to take on the grey patina of an old submarine after a while. Especially when in salt water a lot ( think). I need to send it to an omega Service center for an overhaul. It should last me the rest of my life after that. Although I think that the service is or should be done every 7-8 years?


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