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I had a job interview this morning. Everybody agreed I was a perfect fit. I am. Until they asked if I had a four year degree, and not from an online university. I don't but usually my USN veteran status and extensive experience trumps that. Nope. Everybody at that place right down to the receptionist and assistants have four year degrees. I don't get it.

After conjugating on it, I don't think I would want to work at a place like that.

What say my new buddies?

I say you were interviewing for a company that doesn't require a resume so it must not be much of a company.




Dave

Free enterprise - it's their company, they can make the rules. I'd move on and find a place that appreciates you for what you are.

Only company I ever dealt with that required a degree for employment was plagued by bad management and has a log history of employee turnaround.

They literally replaced 3/4 of their staff every year.

Not too appear to nosy but what profession are you interviewing for?

Half my staff at Blue do not have degree's but they sure do kick some MBA butt!!!

I'd say you don't fit.

Years ago, when I was doing some hiring in a major manufacturing environment, I found that an Eagle Scout status equaled any four year degree.

What the Hell does it matter what we say?

It appears many companies are using a diploma as a replacement for leadership and experience. Nothing replaces leadership and experience.

kwg

Not trying to be a dick, but I'd say your attention to detail sucks.

How is anyone supposed to provide any meaningful feedback with the information you provided?

It's a different world than 20 years ago. Every kid living in his momma's basement gets a degree now because it keeps them from having to work for half a decade while living off of student loans. My cousin is a pharmacist with his own drug store, he has two guys with MBA's running the cash register making $10 an hour. That's how cheap the value of college has become.

When 90% of the public now has a degree in of some sort it becomes easy as an employer to use that as a criteria for hiring. It gives them something to sort applicants.

Not saying it's right, it just is.

I would also like to meet the idiot that asks if you have a degree, but specifies it cannot be from doing classes online.

Ph-fugking-D's can be achieved via online courses.




Dave

If an employer finds they have an abundance of qualified applicants, they can choose to be more selective in their hiring practices and use whatever criteria they choose.

Given a staggering percentage of high school grads that can barely read or perform simple math, I imagine many employers look at a college degree in the same way they looked at a high school diploma in years past.

Without giving a test in an interview, they employer doesn't have a means of determining a limited level of competence. Using a college degree is one method they can use.

You didnt' say where/what re: the work.

Would you be teaching at an accredited school????

Cast, don't rule this place out, and don't sweat the lack of 4 year degree.

I worked in a professional environment with some very smart people for 30 years. Not all of them had college degrees. I understand the "nice to have" idea, but a technical interview will clear up any questions about your abilities.

I'll use an example of one here. A good compadre of mine (We'll call him BW) who I worked with for years did not have a college degree. He was the bar none best IT guy I ever worked with. He's a Billy Ray Cyrus looking Texas biker, complete with mullet.

It always gives me a quiet chuckle when I think about a very humble and innocuous line on his resume:

"Ability to facilitate communication between disparate systems". Barely skirts the edge of his expertise.

One night when he and his family were over for dinner, we talked about him jousting with Steven Hawkings over Black Hole Theory. Guess what. He was right and Steven Hawkings was wrong and finally admitted that fact several years later.

I've known several like BW. Maybe not at his level, but quite competent. I've also known UM Executive MBA's that couldn't form a coherent email. Keep that in mind.

Best of Luck to you.

Good, bad, or indifferent, degrees from brick and mortar schools are still considered "better" than degrees from online institutions. I see it all the time. Two people with the same degree, one online and one brick and mortar. Preference will go to brick and mortar almost every time.

There's another caveat. If someone's not knowledgeable enough to know someone else is knowledgeable, then the job often goes to someone less knowledgeable.

Nuff said.

Years ago a new "boss" at a company I worked for declared he would only have degreed personnel in his group. This caused an experienced Tech Service guy to be "bumped' to a lab technician position. Not long after, "Jerry's" now former customers began calling and asking for him on problems. When told he was no longer doing that job, they would refuse to deal with anyone else. The company finally had to not only ask Jerry to take his old job back, they pretty much had to beg and give him several "extras", including more pay.

Seems they didn't know he as very good friends with and played golf with all those guys regularly, besides being very good at his job for a long time!

I tried to take a step up in the company I work for, was not chosen for the position. The guy that got the job had a 4 year degree but had no experience in the field, I new the job by heart, and I was chosen to teach him the ropes.

First of all when you go to a job interview you should treat it as you searching for the right employer as much as they are searching for the right employee. If [bleep] ain't right, run down walk out of there.

My wife interviewed last year at a company that did some non-profit type work, one of the questions they asked her was if she could have a super power what would it be. She knew right then and there that she wasn't gonna fit in with those folks.

Count your blessings that this came up before you committed to something you will regret. Any person/company that values a piece of paper over actual skills is not going to go far regardless. YMMV