Without giving a test in an interview, they employer doesn't have a means of determining a limited level of competence. Using a college degree is one method they can use.
In addition, employers must be very careful when giving tests. Courts have ruled that if given test tends to eliminate a higher percentage of minorities it's discrimination, and they can be liable. Employers still need a sorting mechanism to eliminate the idiots, so, many now require a degree.
Not all degree's are created equal. This is especially true for online schools, many of which are "diploma mills" that will give you credit in "management" just for having a kid etc. There are too many of these worthless paper manufactures for employers to keep track of, as a result, some decided not to acknowledge any of them.
Not all brick and mortal school are equal either. There's a wide variety of admission standards, and programs can be more, or less rigorous. These differences can also provide employers a sorting mechanics to help weed out idiots.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
Sometimes it is. Any degree that includes the word "studies", that is not for the purpose of helping us understand our enemies so we can be better at killing them is over-rated.
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You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
I think that most work places look at a brick and mortar degree as something that was not easy to obtain. I now that I did when I was in management. The fact that someone stuck it out over a 4,5,or 6 year term makes a difference in some people's yes. I have 3 college degrees w/my major study coming from the U of Texas. I rarely had trouble getting an interview for jobs I was qualified for. It does make a difference. powdr
Some online diplomas are worth toilet paper but there are some very legitimate ones. My cousin got an MBA from Univ of Phoenix. He said he's never worked so hard in life as he did to get that. It's respected in the business world.
βIn a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.β β George Orwell
It's not over when you lose. It's over when you quit.
I tried to take a step up in the company I work for, was not chosen for the position. The guy that got the job had a 4 year degree but had no experience in the field, I new the job by heart, and I was chosen to teach him the ropes.
My wife was in a similar situation as a young lady. Was acting manager of the medical supply room for 3 months in a small hospital. She applied for the position and they gave it to a college grad with no in house experience. When HR asked her to show the new guy the ropes she told them straight up. "He's got the college degree, he can figure it out". my sister did the same thing when they hired a FOB asian lady. This lady feels threatened and keeps making a run at her but she just don't get up early enough to trip my sister up. She told the company owner/president, "nope, so and so hired her, so and so can train her".
Fight fire, save lives, laugh in the face of danger.
I think that most work places look at a brick and mortar degree as something that was not easy to obtain. I now that I did when I was in management. The fact that someone stuck it out over a 4,5,or 6 year term makes a difference in some people's yes. I have 3 college degrees w/my major study coming from the U of Texas. I rarely had trouble getting an interview for jobs I was qualified for. It does make a difference. powdr
You gotta be kidding.
Three college degrees? And you can't spell or write a coherent paragraph?
You might have gotten an interview but I doubt it lasted more than a few minutes and only then if you are a member of the "Protected Class".
I think that most work places look at a brick and mortar degree as something that was not easy to obtain. I now that I did when I was in management. The fact that someone stuck it out over a 4,5,or 6 year term makes a difference in some people's yes. I have 3 college degrees w/my major study coming from the U of Texas. I rarely had trouble getting an interview for jobs I was qualified for. It does make a difference. powdr
You gotta be kidding.
Three college degrees? And you can't spell or write a coherent paragraph?
You might have gotten an interview but I doubt it lasted more than a few minutes and only then if you are a member of the "Protected Class".
His paragraph, while having a few errors, was much more comprehensible and far more earnest than rebottled, relabeled, and resold mixed wine. YMMV, of course, depending upon how close to the left coast, and/or how far up your own ass, your head might be. Given that you max both scales, it's no wonder you still don't get it.
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
My step-father graduated high school at 14 but the college wouldn't accept him until he was 16, so he went to work. Never did have time to get back to college, but ended up as General Mgr. of Shell Oil for all of Western Canada. So paper only goes so far. Cheers NC
don't judge until you have walked a mile in other persons' moccasins' SUM QUOD SUM........HOMINEM TE ESSE MEMENTO
When I was an Electrical Contractor, I hired quite a few school trained journeymen, who had no field experience. I also hired many helpers, who had a lot of experience, but couldn't pass the test (reading & comprehension trouble) I'd put the "journeyman" with the helper, and tell the schoolies - "Do what he says, unless it's a code violation. If it turns into an argument - call me - it IS my license, so I'll decide. The journeymen got the experience, and we were able to get some helpers their journeyman tickets.
My step-father graduated high school at 14 but the college wouldn't accept him until he was 16, so he went to work. Never did have time to get back to college, but ended up as General Mgr. of Shell Oil for all of Western Canada. So paper only goes so far. Cheers NC
And how much further could he have gone with the additional education for a good program?
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
